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Message: [QUOTE="snowycuse, post: 1016604, member: 1910"] I think the mind-boggling thing, at least for me, is that Ennis and Grant as gifted as they are do not scream NBA must have players. I take Gmac over Ennis as Freshman no questions asked. Hakim Warrick and Grant are comparable and one guy stayed the full four years. It used to be you had an idea of who was ready and you could appreciate them moving on. Carmelo dominated and had NBA moves while winning a championship as a Freshman. You get a beast like Waiters and a lessor extent MCW who had NBA body types to translate. Now we have guys like Ennis and Grant who were at times pushed around at the collegiate level stepping up to the man version of the sport. Oh well. [/QUOTE]