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Message: [QUOTE="miamicuse, post: 4111051, member: 7237"] I thought Roy's retirement was a surprise to everyone, including himself. I think he said “I no longer think I am the right man for the job.” to open his retirement speech. That suggests it was not a planned move. He wouldn't be thinking this 12 months prior and just kept it to himself. It was covid, the pauses, the portal, and everything else that all came together. In JB's case, if his intention is to finish with his sons, then it would be planned and not a surprise. [/QUOTE]