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Message: [QUOTE="Cuse2010, post: 39021, member: 1019"] Not what I was saying, I was saying that WVU had the talent to make the jump, SU is still limited on the upside because the talent level is not there yet, If you think our talent can get output like WVU with that coaching than I am wasting my time. Real simple our ceiling with our talent is lower than WVU with their talent. Coaching makes a difference, but you still need the talent for the coaching to have that type impact again you are talking a team WVU with top 25 talent every year compared to us with top 60 talent [/QUOTE]