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This team deserves a better coaching staff...

A Clockwork Orange

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The thread title is a bit misleading, but titling it "Such a frustrating loss" would be redundant at this point. I know there are people who think coaches deserve four or five years before we can assess. I know what I see on the field right now is an undisciplined team, beset by stupid penalties, and (I'm putting this nicely) really odd play calling.

Beyond that, the coaching staff makes really bad decisions when faced with punting situations in plus field position. There are literally dozens of statistical analyses out there that shows that when you're inside the 40, and under say 3rd and 12 it makes no sense to punt. Yet we do, time and again.

I like Coach Shafer, I actually love his style at the podium, and in press conferences. But he is a coaching meathead. He's coaching old school, when old school has been proven to be wrong over and over again. He plays to keep games close, instead of winning games.

I want Coach Shafer to succeed, and I don't think he should be fired; he does need to make some serious changes this offseason though. He needs to make some tough decisions on his coaching staff, and he needs to look in the mirror and truly have a come to jesus meeting with himself.

This team had zero business losing this game today. Even decimated by injuries, they were more talented on the defensive side of the ball. When they weren't shooting themselves in the foot CONSTANTLY the offense they moved the ball relatively well.

This team has talent, but it needs to be disciplined in everything it does. In tackling, in assignment football, in route running, in playing smart, and not making game killing penalties. Those discipline issues are within the coaching staff's ability to change, but it takes time. It needs to be ingrained in the team from the start of the summer, until the end of the year.

You look at a team like BC that shouldn't have any chance to make a bowl this year given their losses -- they play smart, relatively disciplined football. And they win because of that. Our 2010 team was much the same way. This team has GIVEN AWAY so many opportunities this year it boggles the mind. Coach Shafer has control over that, but it has to be at the core of the program. These players aren't showing it on the field, which makes me wonder if it's being taught. I know Coach Shafer wants the team to play as hard as they can at top speed, but they have to start being able to control the controllable. And they're not doing that. And yes, it's frustrating!

Okay, rant over. I'm usually a pretty happy guy, but at times, this team is like watching a grizzly bear slowly scratch its claws over a 750 foot chalkboard.
 
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When you bring in a new proven HC, you give him 4 years. When you "try out" an internal hire that amount of time should not need to be given. He doesn't get it. It's apparent. Next year is a great year to rebuild, there is nothing that is showing that next year is the year we will have all the pieces.
 
When you bring in a new proven HC, you give him 4 years. When you "try out" an internal hire that amount of time should not need to be given. He doesn't get it. It's apparent. Next year is a great year to rebuild, there is nothing that is showing that next year is the year we will have all the pieces.
I agree with all of that. But unfortunately Shafer is going no place. We are stuck with him 1 more year.

Let's add LSU to our schedule...great. Another home embarrassing loss to look forward to
 
I agree. For spending time with the military every year we aren't very disciplined on either side of the ball. Very frustrating to watch us give away games. Hopefully we can somehow get it together for the final three games and get to a bowl.
 
When you have no offensive line, you have no offense. I don't care what level or how skilled some of your skilled players are. if you can't block and protect, you will not score points. You can't drop back, you can't run draws, you can't run roll outs. Needless to say, your backs won't have a fun time either. Ask Eli about last year...... Injuries have decimated us. We simply are not deep enough to overcome them at this point.
 
When you have no offensive line, you have no offense. I don't care what level or how skilled some of your skilled players are. if you can't block and protect, you will not score points. You can't drop back, you can't run draws, you can't run roll outs. Needless to say, your backs won't have a fun time either. Ask Eli about last year... Injuries have decimated us. We simply are not deep enough to overcome them at this point.
When they were healthy they had the same issues on offense.
 
When they were healthy they had the same issues on offense.
We have not had a good line at all this year. In spots, only. This Long kid can sling it. Give him some time and an average running game and he will put up some huge numbers and this offense will score lots of points. Could have won the game today but mad some rookie mistakes. People are far too quick to criticize him. He isn't Winston, but he isn't Patterson, either.
 
We have not had a good line at all this year. In spots, only. This Long kid can sling it. Give him some time and an average running game and he will put up some huge numbers and this offense will score lots of points. Could have won the game today but mad some rookie mistakes. People are far too quick to criticize him. He isn't Winston, but he isn't Patterson, either.
I'm not and most people aren't knocking Long. Long isn't the problem on offense. The guy sitting in the booth calling the play is the biggest problem. Not getting AAM on the field more is the 2nd biggest problem
 
I'm not and most people aren't knocking Long. Long isn't the problem on offense. The guy sitting in the booth calling the play is the biggest problem. Not getting AAM on the field more is the 2nd biggest problem
Agree about AAM. No play calling works with our line...none.
 
I agree with all of that. But unfortunately Shafer is going no place. We are stuck with him 1 more year.

Let's add LSU to our schedule...great. Another home embarrassing loss to look forward to



What do you mean "we"?
 
Long just had another sub 120 rating game with a pick 6. Take out last int it's 128 It's not good. Maybe there is good signs for the future but the numbers say he's been bad
 
What do you mean "we"?
Way to add to the conversation. You are the guy who said our team "lacks class" and looks like "thugs"...yet you are trying to judge me as a fan?! HA! That's funny!
 
Agree about AAM. No play calling works with our line...none.
You can call a better game with an injured line. Roll the pocket, get Long moving, don't let him sit there like a sitting duck waiting to get hit. They could have done things on offense to mask the bad o-line. This coaching staff is lost though on so many levels.
 
Way to add to the conversation. You are the guy who said our team "lacks class" and looks like "thugs"...yet you are trying to judge me as a fan?! HA! That's funny!


Sorry I messed with your joy.

One can always tell when we lose - Stern is all over the board.

It is very apparent how pleased you are when we lose.

Can't you just go away?
 
Long just had another sub 120 rating game with a pick 6. Take out last int it's 128 It's not good. Maybe there is good signs for the future but the numbers say he's been bad
You are expecting far too much out of a true frosh with a less than serviceable line , but by all means keeping humming the same tune...
 
Sorry I messed with your joy.

One can always tell when we lose - Stern is all over the board.

It is very apparent how pleased you are when we lose.

Can't you just go away?
Oh stop. I have every right to talk SU football here just like you. I'm here after every game win or lose. Not my fault the team loses more than it wins these days or in the past few years
 
alphaorange said:
You are expecting far too much out of a true frosh with a less than serviceable line , but by all means keeping humming the same tune...
120 stinks
 
Long just had another sub 120 rating game with a pick 6. Take out last int it's 128 It's not good. Maybe there is good signs for the future but the numbers say he's been bad
I'm focusing on the good signs for the future with Long. Theory being that this is as unrefined as he'd ever be.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
I'm focusing on the good signs for the future with Long. Theory being that this is as unrefined as he'd ever be.
That's fine. I'm fine with him. But he gets a long leash here for hunt like passing numbers
 

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