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Message: [QUOTE="PoppyHart, post: 379930, member: 515"] It's a maddening team. There was enough talent, given the schedule, to go 9-3 or 10-2, and they should be competitive in every game going forward. It reminds me of the Charlie Weis era at ND, or the current situation at OSU. In most games but can't get out of their own way. Kelly took a couple years to get them back to BCS level, and Meyer took essentially an identical team from 6-7 to possibly 12-0. Obviously, coaching can really make a difference. [/QUOTE]