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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 360847, member: 96"] A couple of notes. What is WIN? SU basketball was winning and the students srtill weren't showing up and had their seats moved. Unless you are saying we have to be top 5 like the past couple years. And when the football team won and the Dome did have 45K+, the students were still ripped because unless it was a big game like a Miami or VT, they either didn't show in big numbers or strolled in late and left early. I think your first sentence pretty much hit the nail on the head. Football needs to find a way, as JB and the basketball program did, to become the "in" thing to do on a Saturday (or Friday or Thursday :) ) [/QUOTE]