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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 2116576, member: 668"] No one denies how the sanctions have hurt, but to what extent can clearly be debated. We have not fulfilled the allotment of schollies that were still available. Additionally, just as large at the sanctions then, one can clearly make the argument that the coaches evaluation on the talent they did bring in just were not P5 level, let alone to the level of an [I]'elite'[/I] school. Misses on Joseph, Howard, BJ, Patterson, Chino, etc., etc. have played a significant roll in our lack of overall success...the coaches own that too. [/QUOTE]