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Message: [QUOTE="sutomcat, post: 659924, member: 27"] FYI, you are incorrect about UMd and Penn State. As the crow flies distances to NYC... New Brunswick to NYC 28 miles Syracuse to NYC 195 miles College Park to NYC 196 miles State College to NYC 202 [URL='http://tjpeiffer.com/crowflies.html']Link[/URL] That being said, Penn State football is definitely big in the NYC area and they will bring a far bigger crowd for the game at MetLife than we will. We would get outdrawn for football by Michigan and Ohio State as well. [/QUOTE]