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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 260718, member: 96"] Whether it was handled properly or not, it was time for P to go. A 3 year record under .500, epic losses by 50 pts, losses to scrubs, a disgruntled fan base, deteriorating attendance, the complete loss of recruiting in NJ which was a stronghold prior, and last but not least, our own players recruiting against us by complaining to recruits on their visits about the staff. all of those in total said "it's time". just because the wrong hire was then made, doesn't change the end of P's tenure. whether some of you want to admit it or not, the regression of su football did not "start" with grob, it started 3 years prior. [/QUOTE]