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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 261137, member: 96"] Yep. I know it is cheap to play the woulda, coulda, shoulda game, or the ifs ands or buts and that there are no moral victories...but we were a few plays away from going to 3 straight bowl games. That says 2 things to me loud and clear compared to the prior 4 years. One, that Marrone did a pretty good job coaching them up and that the talent brought in by GRob was that so terribly bad. If we were oh so close to 3 bowls, the program wasn't close to having cratered, unless you want to say Marrone is God, which I think last year showed he wasn't. Another way of looking at it is that in P's last 3 years, he was 16-20 with all P recruits. In Marrone's first 3 years, with mostly GRob kids (or at least a lot of them contributing), we were 17-20. People can't have it both ways, although they try. [/QUOTE]