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Message: [QUOTE="OptimusOtto, post: 5275907, member: 8554"] What's concerning is not seeing the vision come into fruition. Red as a "family hire" fair or not has to answer for the sins of the father. Since he took the reigns he always talks about the Orange Standard and that's what we're holding him to. The Orange Standard is not hanging our hats on moral victories when we lose a close game to an average team. Yes we have a great recruiting class coming in but nothing we've seen inspires confidence that it's going to save us. It's not like we're rolling out this product that we can all point to and say once we get talent in we'll take off. [/QUOTE]