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Message: [QUOTE="OttoinGrotto, post: 1318110, member: 297"] I'm not really sure I understand your burden of proof here, Townie. Ok, soccer players run more per contest than college basketball players. Ok, NBA players play longer games and more games than college basketball players. So, what? In order to get tired an athlete has to do equivalent to those things, and if they do less they must not actually be tired? In order for a fan to make a reasonable claim that our guys look tired they'd need to put heart monitors on them and know for sure? [/QUOTE]