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Message: [QUOTE="BuffOrange, post: 190696, member: 1643"] Yah, Vegas had that game as a pick 'em for good reason. Vermont is for some reason the most memorable 13v4 upset of all time by a landslide to the average CBB fan (I don't think it's just because I'm an SU fan) for reasons still unknown. Is it because of Gus Johnson? The ridiculous 3 from deep? The only one that compares is Princeton-UCLA, and that's just because an Ivy team was involved. Bucknell-Kansas that same night was comparatively quickly forgotten even before KU won it all in '08, and that wasn't a virtual road game for KU like it was for us. :noidea: In any case, I'm sorta on board with title or bust even though I fully realize it is a ridiculous lofty expectation given the crapshoot that the tournament is. Whether we lose in the S16 or the national semi's, meh. Quick, who lost in the nat'l semi's 3yrs ago? Most people who don't live ncaab cannot come close to remembering without looking it up. [/QUOTE]