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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 1630738, member: 60"] Wilt and Shaq get ranked too high because of 1) the physical presence and 2) what their potential was. Neither hit their potential for various reasons, but you can't dismiss that when evaluating them. If Shaq gave a crap, he would be a top five player of all time and probably have 6 rings. But he chose to do what he did, which is fine. I agree with you, my centers list would probably be: KAJ / Russell as 1 and 1a (in either order, but probably KAJ), then Wilt, then Hakeem and then Shaq. [/QUOTE]