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Message: [QUOTE="General20, post: 1719900, member: 724"] Boeheim would disagree, he said on numerous occasions that Owens had one of the best BBall IQ's of any player he coached. I don't understand why everyone wants to blame Owens for the Richmond game. He was literally the only player on the team that played well. Everyone else sucked. Vic Hanson is a tough one to place, but I believe the guy won two championships and was named to the college basketball hall of fame. Seems like he should be in the top 12. Also, Rudy Hackett, never seems to be mentioned. The guy averaged 22 points on a final 4 team. I'd definitely have him on my list . . . which I'll give a go at now. #1) Bing - he's our Babe Ruth #2) Douglas - left Syracuse as the all time leader in points and steals and the all time NCAA leader in assists - can't ask for much more than that, and he did it in three years, while doing a LOT of winning. #3) Owens - He gets blame he does not deserve for the team's early loss to Richmond. He had something like 21 and 7 in that game. The guy averaged 23, 12 and 4 as a junior while grabbing 2 steals a game, shooting 50% from the field and 40% from 3. He was also the power forward on D and the point guard on O a lot of the time. #4) Pearl Washington - There is always that Douglas/Washington debate. Douglas put up better numbers and won more, but Washington started the "SU as a national power" ball rolling, he deserves some bonus points for that. #5) Derrick Coleman - The guy was the best rebounder I have ever seen in college, bar none. He was also arguably the most complete college player Ive ever seen. For a PF/C the guy could handle the ball, shoot, block, rebound, run the court, bang down low, had great hands, and could pass. Almost every college player has a weakness (even the guys above Coleman on this list), but Coleman had none to speak of. Yet, oddly, he was never really the best player on any of his teams. Douglas was for most of his career, then Owens. #6) John Wallace - If we are going by a career, I think he is sixth on the list. If we are going by who had the best single season then Wallace could be #1. It would be between he and Owens to be the #1 guy who played under Boeheim. Owens was a more well rounded player, and had slightly better stats, but Wallace meant more to his team. Wallace, in fact, meant just about everything to his team, and scored a whopping 22 ppg on a team that played at an uncharacteristically slow pace. I bet Wallace scored the largest percentage of his team's points of any player. #7) Rudy Hackett - I'm too young to have seen him play, but he scored 22 ppg on a final 4 team. That sounds pretty good to me. #8) Warrick - Also averaged 20 or 21 ppg as a junior and senior. Was a first team all american, and had the single most important play during our championship. Hard to top Warrick's offensive output here, but he loses some points for being terrible defensively. #9) Anthony - If he stayed all 4 years he'd be #1 on this list, but he only stayed 1 year so I have to compare it to the other players on this list's best years, and give those players extra credit for the extra years they played that he did not. He was the best player on a championship team, which gets him bonus points. #10) Vic Hanson - As I said above, not sure quite where to fit this guy in, but this seems like a good spot. I can't leave out someone who won championships and is in the college basketball hall of fame. #11) Moten - His top end is not as high as a lot of these other guys, but he averaged 18ppg or more every year he played and he saved SU by being a star during a rough patch after NCAA penalties. He's also the Big East's all time leading scorer (we have the Big East's all time leading scorer in Moten, rebounder in Coleman, and assist guy in Douglas, pretty awesome). #12) I kind of want to put Dion Waiters in this spot. Am I crazy? The negative is he only stayed 2 years and his first year wasn't very good. The positive is he was (in my opinion) the best guard in college basketball his sophomore year. Of all the great guards we have had, only Douglas and Pearl can make that claim. He was also the best player on SU's winningest team, which has to count for something. [/QUOTE]

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