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Message: [QUOTE="senorpalmer, post: 1720250, member: 234"] Interesting reading the varying opinions in this thread. The way one chooses to rate a player can vary, depends on how much you value pure talent, accomplishments and statistics. I tend to rate Wallace just ahead of Owens, probably just on the strength of his heroics in the 96 tournament. Owens was the better talent but Wallace was also one of the best talents to play at SU, and raw talent doesn't always win out over the other qualities that make a great player. I couldn't consider GMac to be a top 12 talent at SU but he may well have had one of the 12 best careers of any former Orangeman. [/QUOTE]