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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1002589, member: 1969"] I am sort of on your side with Wichita St. I think they are really good, and people think way too many other teams could go undefeated with their schedule. It's certainly true they would have losses in bigger conferences. But look how many losses other #1 and #2 seeds. But the problem with Wichita is whether you use eye-test or the more typical metrics there is nothing to be really confident with. It's really a guess with them. My proposal with mid-majors is to use a formula to seed them (something like KP) or something. We can't compare them -- whether you are a numbers guy or "I watch basketball" crew. They don't have the games played against top teams, and the basketball watcher cannot see them enough against good teams. [/QUOTE]