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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4603625, member: 237"] Clemson had a net of 60. They were 4-4 in q1 and 3-2 in Q2 with two q3 losses and two q4 losses. They did get 1 solid non conference win vs Penn St. They also have bad losses to SC, Loyola in non conference play with the Ville and BC losses to go with. Conference wins at Pitt ( play in team) and NCSt 2x with the home win over Duke. If they don't lose those two non conference, or win the two bad conference losses or even a mix then with their good wins and q1 record, they likely get in. 4 bad losses is just too many. Entire body of work as they have been preaching. [/QUOTE]