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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 5283918, member: 1969"] We haven't done good enough in OOC play for the ACC schedule to really impact us.. I think we probably need to go 15-5 in conference to even get back in the bubble discussion and let's be realistic But for teams like Pitt, Clemson, SMU, Louisville, even UNC. that have solid enough NETS now, and at least one quality win in OOC play, it could be a problem. Going 12-8 in the ACC could be a problem for any of those teams. I'll take SMU as an example - they are 9-2, NET of 40, with a couple of wins against bubble/NIT level teams in LSU and Washington St. Losses at Butler and Miss St. Nothing great, but nothing really bad either. I can't see a scenario that they get in with a 12-8 record in the ACC. They may well need to go 14-6 to clear the bar. [/QUOTE]