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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 5586832, member: 1969"] I still believe that with a Tennessee loss, a clean OOC slate after that, and an 11-7 ACC record, we will at minimum be on the bubble. The ACC is not in horrible shape NET wise.. could be better but it is nowhere like the last 2 or 3 years. 11 wins and you will get some quality. Remember bubble teams are not exactly bursting out with great resumes. I saw somewhere else where someone said we needed to go 14-4 in the ACC to possibly have a chance. That's crazy - doesn't really take into account the current metric landscape of the ACC in 2025/2026. Metrics are fluid from year, and they stand alone from year to year.. A few years back when the ACC really started to stink some struggled to grasp that 12-8 in the ACC wouldn't be enough for most teams. Now its the other direction. [/QUOTE]