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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1651296, member: 1969"] A few points that I will just consolidate as replies to some of the above.: 1) If you want to say Nova is not a legit #1 that is fine. They are 2-3 against elite opponents this year, and are tracking to be 2-4 if they lose at Xavier. 2) What Nova is really good at is this: They do well at not losing who they are not supposed to in a year when no team in America other thenVillanova has been able to do that ... and it's not because they are facing WCC Level teams (that is ridiculous) Here is a list of 17 games of non elite teams the other 9 teams in the top 10 have losses to (an average of 2 per team( -- Oklahoma St, Kansas St, Northern Iowa, Michigan, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Florida St, George Washington, Dayton, Texas (2), Georgetown, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Florida. Notre Dame (x2). Nobody elite -- some legit tourney teams, some bubble teams, some NIT or CBI level teams. As a group - Butler, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Creighton, Marquette are fairly in line with the sample above. Villanova has managed to beat them all and Nebraska, Akron, St Joes, Stanford, Georgia Tech. Any of them elite? Nope. But everybody in the top 10 has seemed to drop a couple of these types of games. Villanova hasn't. And that is why they are #1 in AP. (I think Fact #1 will hurt them more on Selection Sunday) 3) . Just remember it is a 10 team league and the ACC is a 15 team league. Villanova, Xavier or Providence has to play 12 of its 18 regular season games against KP top 58 teams which would be on par with most top conferences I think. And if you believe Providence is a legit top 15 school (I am skeptical), then they play 22% of their games against AP top 20 schools, which isn't really that much out of line with many other power conference schools outside of the Big 12. 4) The Big East is not the like the WCC or close to it. That is totally ridiculous. 26-17 against the P5 teams this year. List of top victories as noted in an earlier post The WCC never came close to that -- taking out Gonzaga and St Mary's (and now BYU in the past 2 years), the other league teams may have won 10% of its games against P5 teams. 5) I think people bad mouth the Big East because they remember how crappy Providence and Seton Hall were at the end. [B]And there is not enough respect for Xavier and Butler - these are top 25 programs the last 10 years, IMO. [/B] There is an easy way to check if these teams are better because of the conference or not. Look at the KP rankings of schools as at December 31 before confernece play. These schools have up and down periods. They are up right now. 6) Do I think Nova is #1. No, but I see why it is happening (#2 above) Do I think Nova is a clear #1 seed. No because of #1 above. That being said neither of those points have anything really to do with the Big East being down.. [/QUOTE]

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