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Message: [QUOTE="44cuse, post: 20497, member: 693"] I know what you are saying, but here are some more facts: UCONN: Never beat a team with a winning record in the ACC in 13 tries. Never beat a team with a winning record in CUSA. 2-1 against the SEC (7-6 S. Carolina); beat a 2-10 Vandy team and lost to a 2-10 Vandy team Never beat a team with a winning record in the Big10 Never beat a team with a winning record in the Big12 LOUISVILLE: 2-0 vs the Big 12, 5-7 KSU Team and a 7-5 KSU team. Not exactly world beaters. 4-1 vs the ACC; beat 7-6 Miami, 5-7 NC St., 5-6 UNC, 11-3 Wake (very good win) 0-2 vs the Pac 10; OSU both times 5-7 and 5-6 OSU teams 2-4 vs the SEC; beat 8-5 and 3-8 Kentucky teams. 0-2 vs the MWC; lost to Utah (10-3 and 9-4 teams) PITTSBURGH: 0-1 vs the SEC (under .500 Kentucky team) 2-1 vs the Pac 10; beat 8-5 OSU (decent win); beat 3-8 Wash St., lost to 9-4 OSU 4-7 vs the ACC: 2 wins against teams with winning records...both had 5 losses 4-9 vs the Big 10: 1 win against a team with a winning record (9-4 Iowa) RUTGERS: 1-1 vs the SEC; beat 2-9 Vandy, lost to 8-5 Tenn 4-5 vs the Big 10; no wins against a team with a winning record 4-7 vs the ACC; no wins against a team with a winning record 1-2 vs the Big 12; beat 7-6 KSU 0-3 vs the Pac 10; lost to 1-10 Cal and 4-7 Cal. 0-1 vs the WAC SOUTH FLORIDA: 6-3 vs the ACC; 2 wins against team with a winning record and both had 6 losses (FSU and Miami) 1-1 vs the Big 12; beat a 5 loss Kansas team 0-1 vs the Big 10 0-1 vs the Pac 10 SYRACUSE: 3-3 vs the Big 12; 2 wins against teams with winning records: Colorado and KSU (6 loss KSU team) 4-4 vs the SEC; 2 wins against teams with winning records; 10-2 Florida was 20 years ago 6-11 vs the Big 10; 4 wins against teams with winning records (teams had 5, 3, 5, and 4 losses amongst those) 6-12 vs the ACC; 2 wins against teams with a winning record and the last was in 1995 0-2 vs the Pac 10 WEST VIRGINIA: 4-3 vs the Big 12; 1 win vs a team with a winning record 5-4 vs the SEC; 3 vs teams with winning records, none with less than 3 losses 14-15 vs the ACC; 4 vs teams with winning records, none with less than 3 losses 1-5 vs the Big 10; no wins against a team with a winning record CINCINNATI: 1-0 vs the Big 10; beat a 3-9 Illinois team 1-0 vs the Pac 10; beat an 8-5 OSU team 0-2 vs the ACC 0-2 vs the Big 12 0-1 vs the SEC Just by looking at this data, it's pretty clear to me that the Big East (or the teams that currently make it up which is the context) really just has not beaten anyone when they were very good or great. I was just eye-balling the data so it may not be 100% accurate, but I believe the ONLY team in the current BE to have ever beaten a team with only 2 losses is Syracuse. So most of those wins that you mention may be against name schools...but they do not appear to be against name schools when those schools were very good to great. Therefore, I think it is pretty fair to make the claim. The flip side to that is that you play who you play when you play then (ie: you can't control who you get when). But the easy counter to that is that when the BE has played very good to great teams, more often than the BE has lost. Believe the BE is 6-6 in the BCS Bowls with 3 of those wins coming from Miami. Probably the biggest recent win being WVU in 2006 vs Georgia (but even that Georgia team had 3 losses). 44cuse [/QUOTE]

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