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Message: [QUOTE="cliftonparksufan, post: 1706686, member: 9"] Bobby Lazor and Richard Manning both became all Pac 10 players. They had talent but at Syracuse they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. We had a lot of guys transfer out back then for different reasons but some of it was because they weren't able to 32 minutes a game from day one. Both went from averaging two and three points a game here to averaging 17 and 18 ppg at ASU and Washington. It wasn't a case that they didn't have talent, unfortunately they came along at the wrong time and sitting out their transfer year helped. Imagine how good they would be on this years team. BJ could possibly end up the same. It's not always the coaches decision on redshirting. Sometimes it's the family. Same with transferring. [/QUOTE]