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[QUOTE="Dodger44, post: 3657758, member: 4840"] Maybe they didn't choose SU because SU has a reputation of being Loser Univ. Having a chance to play quickly is not always a determining factor. Some kids want to be part of a winning program and reap the benefits that a winning program brings, ie bowl games, etc. Some kids don't want to explain to their buddies why they went to a school that loses most of the time. Sometimes it's the parents influence. It can be many factors. Baber has these challenges to overcome. If he builds a consistent winner, recruiting becomes easier. Based on his track record that remains to be seen. Every programs recruits late developers that where overlooked or underrated players. (For you old enough to remember, Louie Orr wasn't expected to do anything for a couple of years, Louie was a diamond in the rough.) So your have to discount these players and look at the accomplishments of a recruiting class as a whole over 4 years. Sadly after 5 years Babers still doesn't have depth at the most critical part of the team, the OL and DF lines. And most of the recruits he signed this year will be red shirted and are at least 1-3 years from being consistent performers. Hopefully Babers will turn the corner but if he doesn't we will be into 6 years of status quo. Baber's performance, fan support, and ticket sales will determine his fate as a coach. At a lot of other Div 1 programs he would be gone. As Clint Eastwood said in a movie, you could say this about keeping Babers "Do you feel lucky?" [/QUOTE]
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