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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 6736, member: 363"] Agree 100%, the odds are so stacked against you at wake, worse than Syracuse really. The fact that grobe has found a way to put a competitive product on the field less 2010 is amazing. I find it amusing that people are so quick to judge when conervative coach doesn't pan out but hesitate to give credit when it does. Grobe figured he would roll the dice on it, it didn't work. I don't see anyone calling Marrone a genius for punting the ball at the 50 on 4th and 1 in the 2 nd qt. The down the ball at the 5, force a 3 and out and score a td 5 or6 plays later, great call. Went up 7 to 6 [/QUOTE]