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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 324698, member: 78"] i can't do it right now but i bet that you could take a coach that everyone agrees is a success, pick his one down year, and do the same exercise. like say mack brown 10 or 11 years in at texas. (not the best example because i don't think brown is great.) now i'm not saying that Marrone is an obvious success i'm just saying that looking at one year doesn't cut it. i think 2013 -2015 are the years to judge him hard. he'll have all his guys in with experience in a new league with more money, etc. [/QUOTE]