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Message: [QUOTE="caw, post: 199123, member: 1764"] I don't subscribe to KenPom. So I guess I should take it you have looked it up. Have you? If so, why ask the question? Also, that is a bad way of representing it, IMO. I would need some more data, or it's really a biased/inconclusive statement. I need to know how many teams in the top 10 in both those numbers failed to reach the final four, aside from last year. Basically, the 24 are out of how many teams? Is it 24 out of 70 (unlikely) or 24 out of 48 (possible)? You get why I am asking, I assume? Also, it only covers from 2003-2010, which seems like a small data set. Stretch it back to when the NCAA tournament was expanded to 64. I assume it's actually 24 out of 32 including last year? Is it 24 out of 36 or 40 if you go back another year or two? Does the model fall apart if you stretch it back further? Edit: I honestly don't know and am very curious. [/QUOTE]