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UConn WBB HC Geno Auriemma on Men's BB

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Q. You've read a lot about the state of the men's college game this year, that the game is not as fluid, efficient, exciting, well played as it has been in years past. There's many reasons people would surmise that from more freshman, sophomores playing than juniors and seniors. I know you are obviously an authority on the women's game and your team. But you're a basketball coach and a basketball fan, so you see a lot of men's college basketball. What has been your thought about where you see the state of the men's game is right now?
HEAD COACH GENO AURIEMMA: It's funny, you asked me that, I just had a conversation with Phil Martelli yesterday and I think he's the president on the ABC board of directors or whatever.
And we had this conversation and we talked a lot about where the game is and what the future of the game is. And obviously it's immensely popular. You look at the interest paid on the NCAA tournament. I don't know that it's as immensely popular during the regular season as it used to be, but obviously the tournament is just at another world when it comes to that.
Having said that, I think the game is a joke. It really is. I don't coach it. I don't play it, so I don't understand all the ins and outs of it. But as a spectator, forget that I'm a coach, as a spectator, watching it, it's a joke. There's only like ten teams, you know, out of 25, that actually play the kind of game of basketball that you'd like to watch. Every coach will tell you that there's 90 million reasons for it.
And the bottom line is that nobody can score, and they'll tell you it's because of great defense, great scouting, a lot of team work, nonsense, nonsense. College men's basketball is so far behind the times it's unbelievable. I mean women's basketball is behind the times. Men's basketball is even further behind the times. Every other major sport in the world has taken steps to help people be better on the offensive end of the floor. They've moved in the fences in baseball, they lowered the mound. They made the strike zone so you need a straw to put through it. And in the NFL you touch a guy it's a penalty. You hit the quarterback, you're out for life. You know, in the NBA, you touch somebody in the perimeter, you whack guys like they used to do when scores were 90 to 75, they changed the rules.
This is entertainment we're talking about. People have to decide, do I want to play 25 bucks, 30 bucks to go see a college scrum where everybody misses six out of every ten shots they take, or do I want to go to a movie? We're fighting for the entertainment dollar, here, and I have to tell you it's not entertainment from a fan's standpoint.
So that's just‑‑ I'm talking as a fan, not as Geno, Auriemma, the basketball coach.
 
They made the strike zone so you need a straw to put through it. And in the NFL you touch a guy it's a penalty. You hit the quarterback, you're out for life.

That made me laugh.
 
Q. You've read a lot about the state of the men's college game this year, that the game is not as fluid, efficient, exciting, well played as it has been in years past. There's many reasons people would surmise that from more freshman, sophomores playing than juniors and seniors. I know you are obviously an authority on the women's game and your team. But you're a basketball coach and a basketball fan, so you see a lot of men's college basketball. What has been your thought about where you see the state of the men's game is right now?
HEAD COACH GENO AURIEMMA: It's funny, you asked me that, I just had a conversation with Phil Martelli yesterday and I think he's the president on the ABC board of directors or whatever.
And we had this conversation and we talked a lot about where the game is and what the future of the game is. And obviously it's immensely popular. You look at the interest paid on the NCAA tournament. I don't know that it's as immensely popular during the regular season as it used to be, but obviously the tournament is just at another world when it comes to that.
Having said that, I think the game is a joke. It really is. I don't coach it. I don't play it, so I don't understand all the ins and outs of it. But as a spectator, forget that I'm a coach, as a spectator, watching it, it's a joke. There's only like ten teams, you know, out of 25, that actually play the kind of game of basketball that you'd like to watch. Every coach will tell you that there's 90 million reasons for it.
And the bottom line is that nobody can score, and they'll tell you it's because of great defense, great scouting, a lot of team work, nonsense, nonsense. College men's basketball is so far behind the times it's unbelievable. I mean women's basketball is behind the times. Men's basketball is even further behind the times. Every other major sport in the world has taken steps to help people be better on the offensive end of the floor. They've moved in the fences in baseball, they lowered the mound. They made the strike zone so you need a straw to put through it. And in the NFL you touch a guy it's a penalty. You hit the quarterback, you're out for life. You know, in the NBA, you touch somebody in the perimeter, you whack guys like they used to do when scores were 90 to 75, they changed the rules.
This is entertainment we're talking about. People have to decide, do I want to play 25 bucks, 30 bucks to go see a college scrum where everybody misses six out of every ten shots they take, or do I want to go to a movie? We're fighting for the entertainment dollar, here, and I have to tell you it's not entertainment from a fan's standpoint.
So that's just‑‑ I'm talking as a fan, not as Geno, Auriemma, the basketball coach.

It's hard for me to disagree with that. I especially agree with how much contact is allowed at the perimeter. I can handle a few seasons of foul shooting contests if it would reduce the amount of hand checking that goes on.
 
Men's college basketball has declined because the pace of the game has drastically slowed down. Nowadays, eating up clock each possession is done to give less possessions and help the underdog. Geno's opinion is fine I guess I just find it interesting he is one making this point when his sport doesn't have much parity.
 
Geno's opinion is fine I guess I just find it interesting he is one making this point when his sport doesn't have much parity.

That's not what he said. He said there only a few teams that play an exciting brand of basketball.
 
Since the last undefeated men's college basketball in 1976 with the Indiana Hoosiers we have seen plenty of undefeated women's teams.
I would love for that question to be asked to Mr. Auriemma as to why he believes there have been this many undefeated champions.
 
That's not what he said. He said there only a few teams that play an exciting brand of basketball.
I didn't say he was saying that, but if the men's game is in worse shape than the women's game why do we see more teams in the men's game able to beat the top men's teams atleast during the regular season. I don't think Geno's opinion is wrong college basketball has become stale and too defense orientated I just think his phrase it's a joke is out of whack.
 
Since the last undefeated men's college basketball in 1976 with the Indiana Hoosiers we have seen plenty of undefeated women's teams.
I would love for that question to be asked to Mr. Auriemma as to why he believes there have been this many undefeated champions.

I was wondering that same question last week, literally. I believe there is a more limited talent pool for women's hoops and the best girls have been doing what Kentucky is doing this year. Playing together. Maybe it's their more collaborative nature, I don't know, but the best players have decided that playing on teams where there are other great players, even if it means playing less, is fine by them.
 
Coaches need to get out of micromanagement and work on their macromanagement. The game will improve immensely. Stop worrying about one possession losing you a game.
 
Since the last undefeated men's college basketball in 1976 with the Indiana Hoosiers we have seen plenty of undefeated women's teams.
I would love for that question to be asked to Mr. Auriemma as to why he believes there have been this many undefeated champions.

I think the key takeaway from this is that Louisiana Tech has the best mascot. Techsters is amazing.
 
I was wondering that same question last week, literally. I believe there is a more limited talent pool for women's hoops and the best girls have been doing what Kentucky is doing this year. Playing together. Maybe it's their more collaborative nature, I don't know, but the best players have decided that playing on teams where there are other great players, even if it means playing less, is fine by them.


They also don't have anywhere to go except back to school until they graduate. The teams become an evolving 4 year rolling roster.
 
Where has the offense gone? My take:


1. The NBA sucks out all the best players after 1-2 years. These guys used to play 4 years or at least 3.

2. All coaches emphasize athleticism now over skill. The rosters are packed with guys who are faster and jump higher but are not good shooters or passers. The decline in pure skill level from 20 years ago is astounding.

3. The proliferation of AAU games and the dominance of their importance as recruiting showcases over the high school team games has led to the reduction in skills. What gets kids noticed are speed, jumping ability, dunking ability, hot dog plays. Not the teamwork of passing, driving, shooting.

4. Officiating. The amount of holding, pushing, riding offensive ball handlers is ridiculous. Defenders are in contact with the ball handler the entire time shoving at the hip. If the ball handler extends his hand to push the defender off his body it's an offensive foul. They supposedly changed the rule to crack down on this...but the refs haven't. Nobody seems to be able to get the refs to call the fouls to stop it. They changed the rules in the NBA several years ago and they enforce it. Scoring went up from games in the 80's to around 100. Not the NCAA. Teams commit 200 fouls a game and only 20 care called. Coaches know it so they take advantage of it. Foul the ball handler on every play. Most of the fouls are not called. (SU actually does much less of this because we play zone and don't pick up until the 3 pt arc most of the time).
 
He was on with SVP and clarified a bit. Talked about HS ball and lack of shot clock and over-coaching. Said in Europe they play w/ 30 second clock and 8 second count and that younger players there learn to push the ball and get into an offense without having to look at the sideline 3-4 times.
 
24 or 30 second shot clock, no reset of the 10 second rule to get the ball over after halfcourt, get rid of the possession arrow, 4 ten minute quarters, hire full-time refs, actually have refs who can call block/charge correctly I mean these changes could made for next year easily.
 
It's funny, this board largely agrees with him while the UConn men's board is taking the opinion of "girl coach...who cares...has he watched a women's game...make me a pie...rabble rabble."

Just another example that we're smarter than uconn fans.
 
Geno provides no suggestions for improvement.

He should know, though, that the women's game is unwatchable...and only 2-3 teams are capable of wining their tourney each year.
 
cuseguy said:
Geno provides no suggestions for improvement.

He should know, though, that the women's game is unwatchable...and only 2-3 teams are capable of wining their tourney each year.

What does the women's game have to do with the fact that men's college basketball is terrible?
 
Where has the offense gone? My take:


1. The NBA sucks out all the best players after 1-2 years. These guys used to play 4 years or at least 3.

2. All coaches emphasize athleticism now over skill. The rosters are packed with guys who are faster and jump higher but are not good shooters or passers. The decline in pure skill level from 20 years ago is astounding.

3. The proliferation of AAU games and the dominance of their importance as recruiting showcases over the high school team games has led to the reduction in skills. What gets kids noticed are speed, jumping ability, dunking ability, hot dog plays. Not the teamwork of passing, driving, shooting.

4. Officiating. The amount of holding, pushing, riding offensive ball handlers is ridiculous. Defenders are in contact with the ball handler the entire time shoving at the hip. If the ball handler extends his hand to push the defender off his body it's an offensive foul. They supposedly changed the rule to crack down on this...but the refs haven't. Nobody seems to be able to get the refs to call the fouls to stop it. They changed the rules in the NBA several years ago and they enforce it. Scoring went up from games in the 80's to around 100. Not the NCAA. Teams commit 200 fouls a game and only 20 care called. Coaches know it so they take advantage of it. Foul the ball handler on every play. Most of the fouls are not called. (SU actually does much less of this because we play zone and don't pick up until the 3 pt arc most of the time).
nailed it
 
I watch college basketball because I'm a Syracuse fan. But it's become more of a core since 2010.
Indeed .. I haven't watched a lick of the NCAA tourney and don't intend to. When Syracuse is out, I'm out.
 

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