UNC Fan Petition To Overturn The National Championship

[Shenexon]

I don't think I've seen this posted and thought it kind of fun. It's a change.org petition to overturn the national championship due to poor officiating.

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The text of the petition:

"This game was poorly officiated from the tip off to the end. It was a one sided called game all the way through. The officials called fouls against UNC that should have not been called and never called Villanova for the fouls they committed. The officials never called Villanova for multiple travel violations either. Also I want a complete investigation into the officials as it was them that decided the game not who played better."

3205 signers to this point.

 

[OGBJ20]

I don't think I've seen this posted and thought it kind of fun. It's a change.org petition to overturn the national championship due to poor officiating.

Link

The text of the petition:

"This game was poorly officiated from the tip off to the end. It was a one sided called game all the way through. The officials called fouls against UNC that should have not been called and never called Villanova for the fouls they committed. The officials never called Villanova for multiple travel violations either. Also I want a complete investigation into the officials as it was them that decided the game not who played better."

3205 signers to this point.

Although it's not likely to happen, he does have a point. Very poorly officiated game. A number people said the same thing. Took away what was a great game.

 

[Orange Barrel]

That pretty accurately describes every Villanova game.

 

[Briancuse]

Can we petition the Ncaa to overturn every Pitt game?

 

[andyw715]

UNC had more fouls, but Villanova shot more free throws.

 

[jordoo]

The fan is not incorrect from what I witnessed. Obviously it will never happen. The worst call of the game in my opinion was when UNC had Hart very well defended near the end of the game. Nova was up 1 and Hart basically jumped into the defender after pivoting 3 times and was rewarded with FT's. That gave Nova a 3pt lead.

 

[orangefog]

I really think this guy has a shot of making this happen. I applaud the level of sour grapes this man displays. I am sure that the rest of the college basketball world has your back.

 

[OGBJ20]

UNC had more fouls, but Villanova shot more free throws.

At on point there was 9 straight fouls called on NC. nickel and dimers according to Raff.

 

[OGBJ20]

The fan is not incorrect from what I witnessed. Obviously it will never happen. The worst call of the game in my opinion was when UNC had Hart very well defended near the end of the game. Nova was up 1 and Hart basically jumped into the defender after pivoting 3 times and was rewarded with FT's. That gave Nova a 3pt lead.

That reminded me of the point guard from pitt who did the texas two step after BJ put us 1 at the dome.

 

[dasher]

I didn't care who won. The game was reffed very one sided.

 

[OrangeDW]

The refereeing was insane. UNC would get touch fouls, while Villanova players were practically wrestling at times, with no calls.

Villanova benefitted from one sided officiating against Cuse last year too. That 5th foul on McCullough when he went for a ride while getting boxed out/undercut/carried was one of the craziest calls I've ever seen.

 

[Noexcuse]

Eh . . . .

 

[Madbiker]

Oh did big blue blood fall down and hurt their selves?

 

[Alsacs]

John. Higgins is an awful official. Then you add Michael Stephens and nobody was surprised how awful the officiating was.

Higgins ruined the 2012 Syracuse-Ohio state elite eight game. With 48 fouls.

 

[jordoo]

John. Higgins is an awful official. Then you add Michael Stephens and nobody was surprised how awful the officiating was.

Higgins ruined the 2012 Syracuse-Ohio state elite eight game. With 48 fouls.

IMO Higgins is without a doubt an NCAA hitman. If they want someone out of a big tourney game he winds up doing their game and blowing his whistle all night from anywhere on the court.

 

[OGBJ20]

That reminded me of the point guard from pitt who did the texas two step after BJ put us 1 at the dome.

http://www.theacc.com/video/54e8e6b6e4b02247062f5820

 

[djcon57]

To me it's not about the # of fouls, it's how the fouls are being calls.

In the game with UVA, they were allowing their players to essentially hip check on screens.
If you don't call that, you essentially let UVA win. That's their game.

Similarly, Nova slaps and hand checks all game. Either you call them all game or you don't.

If you call them early and often, Nova (and UVA and Butler, etc) will stop and adjust.

It's their gameplan that the refs won't call everything. Its BS

 

[HastingsCuse]

At on point there was 9 straight fouls called on NC. nickel and dimers according to Raff.

In the Syracuse regular season game played at North Carolina at one point (6:05 first half to 16:31 second half) 11 straight fouls were called on SU. Maybe we should start a protest petition about that game?

 

[Orange Barrel]

The refereeing was insane. UNC would get touch fouls, while Villanova players were practically wrestling at times, with no calls.
Villanova benefitted from one sided officiating against Cuse last year too. That 5th foul on McCullough when he went for a ride while getting boxed out/undercut/carried was one of the craziest calls I've ever seen.

Nova takes pride in that kind of play. They call it their "murder" defense. The officiating at the end of the game you reference above was mind boggling. In addition to the undercut, Cooney was clotheslined and laid out on a key inbound. No call. Hilliard took a swing at Silent G during a stoppage. No call. Cahill was looking right at all of these plays. Complete screw job.

 

[orange79]

I am starting a petition to have the 1987 Final overturned.

Just because.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

It's so easy to blame the refs when you don't want to admit you got out-coached.

 

[PeteCalvin]

It's so easy to blame the refs when you don't want to admit you got out-coached.

I think you're missing the bigger picture. Teams like Pitt, Louisville, Villanova, Butler, etc, make their living on bumping, grabbing, reaching in on the opponents. It's done by design to give them the advantage and put the refs in a position where they have to decide what they are going to call or let go. Pitino has admitted openly that they play like this because the refs can't, and won't, call everything, and over the course of game they will gain an advantage.

The reason I wanted they arena to cave in Monday night is because you'd either have a clutch and grab group of players win or a school that openly cheated for over two decades carry home another trophy.

Again, it's nice to see Jay get a ring, but that group of players reminded me of a better scoring Butler team. Arachnid and Ochefu can't be off campus fast enough. And what's sad is that the venom I show for those guys should probably be directed more at the BE officials who allowed them to physically abuse our guys down the stretch to get the win.

Nova were the darlings of this tourney, and the refs gave them the Duke treatment.

 

[721Comstock]

Eh . . . .

OFFENSIVE FOUL!!!!

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I think you're missing the bigger picture. Teams like Pitt, Louisville, Villanova, Butler, etc, make their living on bumping, grabbing, reaching in on the opponents. It's done by design to give them the advantage and put the refs in a position where they have to decide what they are going to call or let go. Pitino has admitted openly that they play like this because the refs can't, and won't, call everything, and over the course of game they will gain an advantage.

The reason I wanted they arena to cave in Monday night is because you'd either have a clutch and grab group of players win or a school that openly cheated for over two decades carry home another trophy.

Again, it's nice to see Jay get a ring, but that group of players reminded me of a better scoring Butler team. Arachnid and Ochefu can't be off campus fast enough. And what's sad is that the venom I show for those guys should probably be directed more at the BE officials who allowed them to physically abuse our guys down the stretch to get the win.

Nova were the darlings of this tourney, and the refs gave them the Duke treatment.

Nova won the National Championship because they shot like a combined 60% from the floor in two games in the tournament. So let's just get that out of the way first. No reffing is going to make a ball go into a basket.

Secondly, I'm not missing the big picture. Bad refs change games when you give them an opportunity to change games. For example, Villanova rotated their guards into the paint on defense all season, and UNC did nothing about it. UNC missed a dagger at the end of the first half and let Nova swing the score just before the buzzer. And UNC let Nova's 8th guy (Booth) score 20. Not to mention the terrible defensive call on the last basket.

I don't see the problem in crafting a defense that may or may not fudge the rules. It's the job of the refs to decide what is acceptable and what isn't- if they're calling it tight, then back off. If they're not, take advantage of it.

Sure, it can be frustrating and ugly to watch. But no one would be complaining about chippy defense if we were doing it.

 

[orangefan13]

can't fix the issue without confronting it.
However
UNC was loaded
Nova only shot 17 freetrhows.
Nova was 8-14 from three and
Nova shot 58% from the field all ft's aside.
UNC still shot 13 foul shots to novas 17.
and UNC had count them 15 more FG attempts. Make that 13 more if you take out the 4 extra free throws.

You can argue defensive players not being on the floor but No offense but UNC doesn't exactly have a argument imo.

Nova also held them to 42% shooting to Novas 58, and they were the most dominant team inside the paint in the tournament no question about it.

Agree about the physical play being rewarded though, its rediculous that it is considered wanting it more and more aggressive. If your going to argue that just let them play football out there. Teams with shorter benches can either be destroyed or rewardeded by being allowed to play more physical because of it. While teams with longer contributing benches tend to get screwed some games with crap touch fouls and needing to depend more on their 7th 8th 9th men handicaps. We haven't had a solid 8th or 9th man since 11-12. This isn't the nba the players aren't strong enough and the handchecking and bodying players with your chest while they dribble is out of contol in the college game outside of the paint. Especially in road game situations it needs to be addressed.