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Message: [QUOTE="P Vasiloff, post: 4785496, member: 6210"] I said it last week and I will say it again. No other P5 school who was really serious about having a successful football program would still have Dino Babers as their head coach with his record. I don’t care what facilities you build twenty years too late, what matters is the product you recruit, develop and then turn into a successful product on the field. Babers is 19-41 in the ACC. He has been given much more than his predecessors and still has not been able to be either a consistent winner or competitive against top tier talent. How much more faith is any fan supposed to have. My God it’s embarrassing! [/QUOTE]