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Message: [QUOTE="tep624, post: 869047, member: 430"] I still think the death penalty should have happened. The fact that it didn't is the reason why that broken culture is still pervasive. The death penalty sucks for the kids that are juniors and seniors, but let's face it - you have to drop the hammer and send a clear, concise message, that's the only way you're going to get a culture that is so ingrained in a community to change. You're not going to do it by empty threats and luke warm punishments that are subsequently reduced. And if the end wasn't getting the culture to permanently change, then the NCAA should have just done nothing and not waste everyone's time. [/QUOTE]