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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 2650293, member: 40"] How is a comparison to the situation that occurred at Penn State - per your above post - sensationalist? By order of magnitude. Joe Paterno found out about his trusted confidant's predatory P e d o p h I l I a over multiple decades, impacting dozens of children, but swept it under the rug to handle things "in house" so that his buddy wouldn't face legal action for his heinous criminal actions. And despite knowing that Sandusky buggered children, he complicitly allowed this animal to run camps for a decade using Penn State football facilities that enabled him to target more victims and abuse countless MORE children. This OSU situation, while tremendously unfortunate, involves one person. I watched her interview--I empathize tremendously with Courtney Smith, but comparing their situation to what occurred at Penn State lacks perspective, putting it mildly. Another thing that I find sensationalist about your post is the notion that Meyer having a history with Smith [including your reference to Earl Bruce] is condemning. Have you ever managed people in the workforce? Not asking that disrespectfully -- honest question. I have -- across multiple companies, across many industries, with teams ranging from a handful of employees to having more than 40 people directly reporting to me in a global context. Over the MANY years I've been in management, I've seen it all -- I've had incredibly high performing, high potential employees go through rough patches and have their performance unexpectedly nosedive due to unanticipated health complications, marital issues, divorces, drug or alcohol abuse, financial distress, infidelity -- you name it. In many cases, these employees were high enough performing where you had to give them support to enable them to dig out of their rut. Some did, some didn't -- and the consequences were commensurate with the outcomes across the board. Accordingly, I don't view it as a black mark on Meyer's part that he didn't give up on Smith in 2009 or 2015 -- because we only have one side of the story, and don't know what he knew or what he did with that information, cynicism aside. I actually think that him not going from 0-60 with incomplete information back in 2009 is probably indicative of him having reasonable perspective, but limited information more than "willfill ignorance" -- although I can certainly understand where that perspective comes from. I'll also add that our societal attentiveness to / intolerance for domestic violence has ratcheted up in recent years, for the better. I don't hold somebody's actions in 2009 to the same level of behavioral standard as how we expect things to be handled in 2018, after the events of the past year. Things have changed -- for the better. Full disclosure -- I can't stand Ohio State. I hope he gets terminated in order to cause turmoil for that accursed football program. And I certainly believe that he didn't do as much as he could have -- I just don't think that equates to complicit negligence, or that things were nearly as cut and dry as the early coverage made it seem. More full disclosure -- I have three daughters. I find the notion of domestic violence frightening and horrifying FOR them, so I don't make the above statements lightly. I just think that careers don't need to be destroyed over situations where the authority didn't directly commit the infractions, and wasn't directly responsible for what happened. That is particularly true in large organizations, with lots of moving parts. Per what I state above, it is easy to conclude through the 20/20 perspective of hindsight and media-fueled insight / lots of sneak peeks behind the curtain that Meyer should have done X, Y, or Z differently -- but people aren't privy to what goes on behind closed doors, nor do they [nor should they?] get involved in people's personal relationships. Is it right or wrong to tell people how to discipline their kids at the grocery store? Not nearly as cut and dry as it might seem. EDIT -- I don't put much stock in what a POS like Zach Smith has to say, but it was interesting that tonight he indicated that the Ohio State AD was in fact informed about the 2015 situation. That certainly suggests that Meyer at least adhered to the standards that were in place, and what he was supposed to do as the overseer of the football program - with 100+ players, numerous coaches, and even more administrative staff. Now, it can certainly be argued whether he did "enough," or whether he should have done more, but I think this information at least suggests that proper protocols were followed to some degree three years ago. Maybe through the lens of today, with the #metoo movement and more collective scrutiny on such matters his actions were insufficient -- I'll readily acknowledge that. [/QUOTE]

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