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Message: [QUOTE="PhatOrange, post: 3024477, member: 229"] Save percentage can’t be the be all end all for a goalie. You can have a great goalie on a poor team that gives up a lot of possessions and shots. It’s such a grey area for measuring a goalie. I also struggle with goalies and man down. It’s not fair to a goalies’ save percentage if they’re man down a lot. I had a goalie this year give up 67 goals and 15 of them were man down, sometimes two men down. Should that count against a goalie? Just curious on thoughts here. Bottom line for me, I want goalies to make all the saves they should reasonably make and then save a few they shouldn’t. I think if you get that much from a goalie you’re in good shape. (and I basically throw out man down). Imo THE hardest position in all of sports bar none. [/QUOTE]