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Message: [QUOTE="DeGrozz, post: 3071171, member: 205"] I disagree with a few things. First, you don’t need to be an elite athlete to be an elite soccer player. The average EPL player is like 5’9” 155 and would get embarrassed in athletic competitions against most main stream athletes in the US. I agree with you on the elite skill. Not really the point of the post though... Carleton was still suspended for the MLS cup final because he was out partying the night before the game. Would he have made the 18? Probably like a 25% chance. There were matches he was called upon before Kratz and McCann during that year. It’s not necessarily that he doesn’t have the tools, he’s got questionable character and makes dumb decisions on the field. [/QUOTE]