VaTech over Duke 64-63

[CousCuse]

VT should get into the top 25 with that win. I think this helps the cause.

 

[orangenirvana]

Virginia Tech's RPI is only 59. This might put them in the mid 40's but that's still just a Quadrant 2 win for Syracuse.

 

[rocfan44]

Virginia Tech's RPI is only 59. This might put them in the mid 40's but that's still just a Quadrant 2 win for Syracuse.

48 according to realtime RPI

 

[themorey]

The Hokies are now off the bubble.

 

[CousCuse]

Virginia Tech's RPI is only 59. This might put them in the mid 40's but that's still just a Quadrant 2 win for Syracuse.

Some wins by the Orange could help their RPI.

 

[Ghost]

Duke be better without Bagley.

 

[orangenirvana]

48 according to realtime RPI

So they'll need to rise 18 more places to be a Quadrant 1 win for us. Not very likely to happen.

 

[CousCuse]

if the Orange didn't have that hangover from the UNC game, they would have beat Duke. Got to get BC.

 

[two3zone]

This quadrant stuff is making the road to the tournament unbearable.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

if the Orange didn't have that hangover from the UNC game, they would have beat Duke. Got to get BC.

What ? How can anyone say this with any certitude ?

 

[CousCuse]

What ? How can anyone say this with any certitude ?

Duke scored 60 points Saturday and 63 today. Orange had their worst shooting day of the year. It's not some crazy thought.

 

[Funk Doc]

if the Orange didn't have that hangover from the UNC game, they would have beat Duke. Got to get BC.

Yeah you’re right, we’re normally such a great offensive scoring team. Was just a hangover game! We don’t usually shoot so poorly!

 

[shermstheman]

Duke scored 60 points Saturday and 63 today. Orange had their worst shooting day of the year. It's not some crazy thought.

This year it is.

 

[bpo57]

This quadrant stuff is making the road to the tournament unbearable.

Shaping up to be an epic cluster ****.

 

[CousCuse]

Yeah you’re right, we’re normally such a great offensive scoring team. Was just a hangover game! We don’t usually shoot so poorly!

This year it is.

Don't get down on the team, they can still put it all together.

 

[jncuse]

Some wins by the Orange could help their RPI.

It would take about 44 wins in a row by us to rise them to the top 30.

 

[Funk Doc]

Don't get down on the team, they can still put it all together.

Believe it or not, all the offensive frustration aside, I still expect big time results every single game. This team is terrible offensively, but when they’re on...like against VT or BC, they have the ability to flat out light teams up. They definitely have it in them, just wish it happened a bit more. I’m all Orange...through the good and bad!

 

[CousCuse]

It would take about 44 wins in a row by us to rise them to the top 30.

I'm thinking they win 3 and we win 3.

 

[CousCuse]

Believe it or not, all the offensive frustration aside, I still expect big time results every single game. This team is terrible offensively, but when they’re on...like against VT or BC, they have the ability to flat out light teams up. They definitely have it in them, just wish it happened a bit more. I’m all Orange...through the good and bad!

Got to get hot at the right time. Like Wednesday would be nice.

 

[jncuse]

This quadrant stuff is making the road to the tournament unbearable.

How is it different than the past? Before it was top 50/top 100... now it is the exact same thing except they adjust for location.

 

[jncuse]

I'm thinking they win 3 and we win 3.

They can move their RPI... at this point we really can't,

They have played 30 games... so the opponents have 870 games. Us winning games 871,872,873 is not going to change that opponents winning% factor in the crappy RPI formula.

 

[jncuse]

Shaping up to be an epic cluster ****.

Just wondering why you think it will be any worse than the top 50 or top 100 in the past.

I know your preferences for teams getting in, and it would seem that the garbage out issues would be the same either way.

 

[CousCuse]

They can move their RPI... at this point we really can't,

They have played 30 games... so the opponents have 870 games. Us winning games 871,872,873 is not going to change that opponents winning% factor in the crappy RPI formula.

It can't hurt it. If the Orange gets in, it will be by the skin of our teeth.

 

[CousCuse]

Here are the actual 4 quadrants:
Now the committee is looking at each team’s record in four “quadrants,” and here’s how those quadrants break down:

• Quadrant 1: Home games vs. teams RPI ranked 1-30, neutral games vs. 1-50, away games vs. 1-75
• Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135
• Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240
• Quadrant 4: Home 161-plus, neutral 201-plus, away 241-plus

 

[bpo57]

Just wondering why you think it will be any worse than the top 50 or top 100 in the past.

I know your preferences for teams getting in, and it would seem that the garbage out issues would be the same either way.

That's all true. I'm frustrated in that I thought we were trending toward moving away from the reliance on the RPI. The quadrant system, to me, almost seems to be doubling down on the RPI approach.