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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1650715, member: 1969"] Just to be clear I was not bringing up polls into the equation either. I was talking about where they could be on the s-curve under the playoff system -- assessing results, considering power rankings they rely o. I can't really disagree with you having them at #7. I just couldn't really disagree with a group that had them at #3 or #4 either. The difference between #2 and #8 is negligible this year. I wouldn't have them ar #1. Polls - meh, interesting to follow, makes for good arguments, but they are not a great ranking system by any means. I am not trying to stand up for Villanova as #1... I am just saying they have as much as a right to the 2/3/4 spot as about 7 or 8 teams. [/QUOTE]