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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1629133, member: 1969"] Not a surprising opening line. I calculated it as 11 based on KP efficiency * pace + HCA. The Vegas ranking system they use for lines I think is very similar based on my observations this year. That being said I don't disagree that there may be value in that line. While the rankings are weighted a little more to recent games, they still consider the part of the season when Clemson really stank which may no longer be that relevant. [/QUOTE]