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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 5419370, member: 237"] Oh we see the same thing. I dont know how GMac would have fared from the recruiting side but as a speaker he does have that it factor as an in the family example but yeah. I don’t know if he could ever develop some of that if they won or not but this year has to be make or break for Red and hearing him talk I think just getting to the tourney shouldn’t be enough. Alex was even pulling punches not to sound head and shoulders better as a speaker which makes you cringe a bit too. [/QUOTE]