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Message: [QUOTE="djorange1989, post: 2769598, member: 3508"] yes, and they don't have as much talent as they once did (ie their one man show at QB). Also, hiring Van Gorder to run your defense is a sure way of finishing 125th in defense, which is where they are. When you have 20 kids filing for potential transfer, you have a kid who didn't show up for their game day campus walk tradition, it is obvious they have bailed on Petrino. Maybe as bad as I have seen since Washington went 0-12 on a mission to get Willingham fired (and it worked) [/QUOTE]