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Message: [QUOTE="CusefanATL, post: 2656858, member: 853"] I am not a legal expert in any way shape or form - but this is pretty recent and informative and specific to ny. Surprised we haven't read about this article elsewhere yet. [URL="https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20161115/briarwood/mathew-smith-patrick-gorman-one-punch-law-new-york-state-albany-queens-nyc/"]Little-Known Law Considers 'One-Punch Homicides' a Misdemeanor, DA Says[/URL] In my 10 min of googling, 1 punch killings are a little more common than i would have anticipated but still rare. It doesn't seem to be murder anywhere. Doesn't seem to be more than a few years jail time (some with no jail time or not guilty verdicts) unless previous history of assault, victim is a girl, or sucker punch - most i saw was 11 years. Still can be jail time even if provoked. - AGAIN - VERY QUICK GOOGLING. this is not a end-all argument fact. [/QUOTE]