Wash Post on SU AD Hire

[bozophobe]

When I watch FOX News, I know I am getting news seen through a particular ideological prism.

Same thing when I read the Wast Post every day. I know it's thoroughly and completely biased in every section.

I've taken to watching the BBC to get a view that isn't politicized like FOX and the Washington Post and the PBS/NPR.

I've never heard a show on NPR that didn't obsessively give equal voice time to both major sides of an issue.

 

[Townie72]

Then explain why BBC is foaming at the mouth with a one sided view that that Great Britain should stay in the European Union. BBC unbiased, is this a joke?

[ I meant the BBC's coverage of US affairs was relatively unbiased or more factual and less ideologically-driven than FOX or CNN or any of them. When it come to British matters they frequently fall into the same trap as the US media does.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

So this whining about erasing of the line between college and entertainment means what exactly in your opinion?

What do you think he's suggesting?

And it's not like we haven't heard this sentiment before.

"Whinng" - another inflammatory insertion... "Clucking", 'Whining". Do you think you could post something with the incendiary choice of words?

Show me where in the article you think he is waxing nostalgic for a return to the NESCAC years?

I see straight-forward reporting about the changes in the roles of big-time athletics departments and the people who lead them.

What is don't see is any commentary on the morality or appropriateness of those changes.

Show me where in the article you think he is making a judgement on the appropriateness of those changes?

 

[Townie72]

"Whinng" - another inflammatory insertion... "Clucking", 'Whining". Do you think you could post something with the incendiary choice of words?

Show me where in the article you think he is waxing nostalgic for a return to the NESCAC years?

I see straight-forward reporting about the changes in the roles of big-time athletics departments and the people who lead them.

What is don't see is any commentary on the morality or appropriateness of those changes.

Show me where in the article you think he is making a judgement on the appropriateness of those changes?

I have no desire or patience with educating you on the obvious.

Instead, I'll let you do the heavy intellectual work.

Why else would someone comment on this hire as erasing the line between the educational mission of the school and entertainment? What would be the purpose of that observation?

Have you ever heard or read anyone bemoan the impact of big time sports on the educational mission of Universities? Why wouldn't you think this is just part of that?

 

[Forza Azzurri]

I have no desire or patience with educating you on the obvious.

Instead, I'll let you do the heavy intellectual work.

I'll let this go to keep it civil.

Why else would someone comment on this hire as erasing the line between the educational mission of the school and entertainment? What would be the purpose of that observation?

Maybe because it is true?

Have you ever heard or read anyone bemoan the impact of big time sports on the educational mission of Universities? Why wouldn't you think this is just part of that?

Many times. And when they do, that is exactly what they write in the article.

So, I ask you again, where in the article do you see an evidence that he is "bemoaning the impact of big-time sports on the educational mission of universities".

If it is so obvious to you, then point out the instances in the article where he is doing so.

 

[Townie72]

I'll let this go to keep it civil.




Maybe because it is true?



Many times. And when they do, that is exactly what they write in the article.

So, I ask you again, where in the article do you see an evidence that he is "bemoaning the impact of big-time sports on the educational mission of universities".

If it is so obvious to you, then point out the instances in the article where he is doing so.

Can you really be that literal?

What he'd like to say, he doesn't.

I can almost fill in the blanks for you.

Stop being lawyerly on this. We all know who is shocked and dismayed at the professionalism of big time college sports.

To suggest the author isn't feeding into the same old narrative is to suggest he has no point at all.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Can you really be that literal?

What he'd like to say, he doesn't.

I can almost fill in the blanks for you.

Stop being lawyerly on this. We all know who is shocked and dismayed at the professionalism of big time college sports.

To suggest the author isn't feeding into the same old narrative is to suggest he has no point at all.

The point the author is making is that SU's hiring of Wildhack, and the hiring by other schools of longtime business professionals, is an acknowledgement that big time college athletics has become a business segment of a university rather than simply an extension of the educational mission.

And I would agree with that point.

What he does not do, while making this point, is to say anything about the morality/correctness of this.

You are the one who is superimposing the assumption that the author is against all this. And he well may be. But he does not say so in the article.

 

[TheCusian]

The point the author is making is that SU's hiring of Wildhack, and the hiring by other schools of longtime business professionals, is an acknowledgement that big time college athletics has become a business segment of a university rather than simply an extension of the educational mission. And I would agree with that point. What he does not do, while making this point, is to say anything about the morality/correctness of this. You are the one who is superimposing the assumption that the author is against all this. And he well may be. But he does not say so in the article.

The thing that is criminal to leave out is a quote from Wildhack himself. The writer leaves things out on how Wildhack feels about student athletes and the role of the University academically.

In fact, you could write a pretty good story about how the passion Wildhack feels for the university - the only place he's leave a much higher position for - is altruistic and born from a desire to see student athletes achieve greatness on the field and off.

In other words: easy, cynical story to write "college sports is a business, this is a business man" ... Tougher, harder story to write "guy leaves lucrative job in business to give back to the university"

 

[Townie72]

The point the author is making is that SU's hiring of Wildhack, and the hiring by other schools of longtime business professionals, is an acknowledgement that big time college athletics has become a business segment of a university rather than simply an extension of the educational mission.

And I would agree with that point.

What he does not do, while making this point, is to say anything about the morality/correctness of this.

You are the one who is superimposing the assumption that the author is against all this. And he well may be. But he does not say so in the article.

Of course. Of course.

He doesn't have to say it. It's been said so many times in the past. It's so obvious, he doesn't have to say it. He's hitch-hiking on all that.

Everyone knows the rest of the lyrics to the song.

If I were to sing, "Oh, Say can you see ... ". I'm pretty sure most would say to themselves, "by the dawn's early light".

When he says the line between college and entertainment is being erased are you suggesting he doesn't know what the follow on words to that are?

Do you really think he would next say, "And that's the good news".

No, the rest of that song is about colleges prostituting their ideals to remain competitive in big time sports.

Of course, I actually agree with that. It reminds me of the joke about the dumpy little guy who asks a sophisticated woman at a party if she would sleep with him for $1M.

She says, "For a Million dollars? Sure."

He then asks, "Well, what about $50?

She responds, "$50? Of course not. What do you think I am?

He responds by telling her, "We have already determined what you are. Now we are just haggling over the price."

The universities are so on the hook for this money from big time sports they'll do just about anything. Erasing the line between the university and entertainment? Hell, that's a misdemeanor compared to what we have seen recently at UNC, at Penn State, at Louisville, at etc., etc, etc.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

It's amazing that MORE athletic departments aren't hiring folks with a specialty in sports media or next level sports management. I mean, how else are these departments finding funding?