Watched the first quarter again

[HRE Otto IV]

So I decided to watch it again, not sure why.


1st play

-What was Cordy doing on that play? He got beat badly on a simple move. It was pathetic. He is supposed to be our best D player.

-Franklin was totally lost on the play. If it was a run the RB would have gone through the hole before Franklin even knew what was going on. He took himself out of the play, which he did a lot of last year. He shouldn't be that lost on the play.

Our 1st drive

-Dungey made a bad read and ended up taking a sack. The OL did him no favors but he had a guy open that he looked off.

-ET needs to make that catch on 3rd down.

UL 2nd drive

-We had 8 in the box yet no one on the outside. They ran a simple toss and had no problem getting 8 yards. The DE wasn't wide and Whitner was on the inside hip of the DE. I assume someone was out of position.

-Long pass play is mostly on the scheme. They had trips to one side yet we only had Dowels and Cordy to cover the 3 WRs, who all ran verticals. We decided to have Winfield stay on the other side. He covered the RB who ended up emptying the backfield. Whitner had to protect against the TE running a seam so that held him from getting to the play. Yes he should have made the tackle, but no way he prevents the completion for 30 yards.

-IMO Cordy was to blame as well. He played the outside slot like it was man coverage. He paid no attention to the inside slot. He should be keeping an eye on both. Again it isn't fair that he has to cover two WRs (scheme) but at least he should be able to make a tackle. He took himself out of the play. Funny thing is Dowels made the tackle and he was covering the outside WR. That fact that he was further away and made the tackle while Cordy was never in the screen, says a lot. So after 2 pass plays our best player made 2 mistakes IMO.

-TD run our LBs were totally lost. Thomas got suckered inside where Cordy and Franklin should have been. He has to play that outside in. Franklin did his typical Franklin vs the run play. Like I said above he looked lost last year as well. Is it him or is he being coached to do what he does? IMO it makes no sense. He is never blocked and they run right where he was every time. On the snap he runs to the weak side as the RB goes strong side and the QB follows him (pretty much like an Iso). There was no misdirection or threat of a run the other way. Plus Franklin ended up attacking the same gap as Bennett, which makes no sense.

SU 2nd drive

-3rd and 7 a QB draw????

UL 3rd "drive"

-Long TD run was a scheme issue for the 1st 10 yards then it was a Jackson/tackling issue. The DE was screwed on the play. He could have done a better job with contain but even if he did, he gets kicked out by the TE and Jackson simple runs inside of him with the same result. There was no way for the DE to make the play. That being said the coaches should have been teaching the DEs to contain all week long. Hopefully they get the point across better this week.

-Bennett was the OLB who was aligned more like an ILB. For some reason he incorrectly goes inside on the play. But even if he stays outside, he likely gets blocked by the 2nd TE or possibly the T. An average QB is getting 10 yards on this play assuming Whitner or Hudson can make a tackle. So the question becomes was Bennett out of position because he was taught that or was he doing what he was told? If he is doing what he was told then that is on the coaches. If he was playing incorrectly then it is on him that he had no chance to make a play.

SU 3rd drive

-1st play Dungey threw outside of Philips. By Philips' reaction he should have gone that way so it wasn't a poor throw but a bad read by Irv. Rest of the drive was great.

UL 4th drive

-1st play went for 9, a zone read that Jackson kept. Bennett did a nice job staying outside this time. Franklin avoided the block by going under it but Jackson was too fast and through the hole. If you want to nitpick he could have taken a diving attempt.

-Our 1st positive play on D a drop by the WR.

-3rd and 1 he hit the RB behind the LOS but couldn't take him down. Thank god for the holding call.

-3rd and long we sent a blitz. We dropped the DE into coverage. The Louisville player dropped the ball. I think the DE would have made the play but it would have been close. This drive seemed more luck than us making plays.

SU drive

-1st play was a deep shot. Like the call.

-2nd play was weird. It appeared to be a designed roll out yet all the WRs were on the opposite side of the field. It might have been a throw back screen to Philips, but Dungey never looked that way. It might have been a deep shot to Ismail, but on 2nd and 10 that seems odd. Or it was a busted play. UL got a lot of guys in the backfield right away so maybe Dungey just rolled on his own.

-3rd and 10 was a 3 yard pass to Estime. Dungey wasn't under pressure he needs to allow the play to develop before dumping it off.

UL drive

-1st play Hudson gets beat deep in the middle of the field. Most CBs against a tall WR aren't making a play without help in the middle from a S. On the play UL had twins to the right, no WR to the left. But again Winfield was on the left to play over the TE. Why? I am not sure what either of our Ss are doing on the play. Were we in cover zero or did someone miss the call? If it was cover zero then it is on the coaches. If one of the Ss missed the coverage, how does that happen especially on the first play?

-Cordy is the S on that side of the field. The way he follows the slot WR I assume he was in man coverage. So unless he got the coverage wrong, it wasn't his fault.

-Whitner was sucked in on the play fake, but he then acts like it was cover 2. If it was cover 1 then he shouldn't have been concerned with the run at all, and he should have opened up to the middle of the field and not toward the sideline when he realized it was a pass. Did he get the call wrong?

-Next play Jackson walks into the endzone. Again this is on the coaches. The DE was crashing down, there was no one on contain. Even if the DE missed the assignment, again Jackson woudl have cut under him for the same result.

-Thomas is aligned like an ILB and plays the dive. But even if the outside is his primary responsibility, he gets blocked by the TE. There is a chance of course that both Thomas and the DE blew the play, but if you are practicing all week against this O, how can two people get things wrong?

-For some reason with no WR on that side Hudson was aligned like a S. Why? He had no clue what to do on the play.

-Franklin went the wrong way again, not that it mattered since he wouldn't have been involved in the play. But it does make me think that our scheme is messed up. Someone has to be responsible for the dive. If your middle LB is going the other way, then the OLB has to take the dive. But then if the OLB is taking the dive, you have no one to take away the outside run. So either Franklin and Thomas have no clue what they are doing (partially a coaching issue) or they are doing what they are told and the scheme is awful.

-If we play this way vs USF it will be more of the same. Jackson was going untouched without even making a move. Sure he is a lot better than the USF QB but Jackson was jogging around with no defender in sight. He didn't have to do much work.

SU drive

-After a nice Dungey designed run he takes a sack. They had penetration but the RB picked it up. For some reason Dungey stepped up in the pocket when he didn't need to, he wasn't under pressure.

-3rd down we took a deep shot which I am not crazy about. We got a little lucky with a PI call.

-Next play empty backfield and Dungey wisely took off for an easy 1st down.

-On a 2nd and 10 we try a swing pass. It went incomplete and was nearly tipped by the DE. I thought it was poorly designed. On a pass like that you want a little bit of time to have the defenders clear out the area. Yet we threw it right away. So even if the pass was completed, the CB is still there unblocked to make a play behind the LOS. It was definitely a designed play as ET was blocking the LB right away. But like I said I rather have the WR take away the CB and have the OLB make a play.

-However that might have been a bad read by Dungey. On the back side Ismail was running a screen. I am guessing that was option #2 since Dungey never looked that way. Ismail was open and it certainly would have been the better decision. Was Dungey supposed to read the CB covering ET? Meaning man coverage throw the swing, if zone go backside?

-3rd down Dungey nearly throws an INT. Neal was split wide and did turn late but I still think the DB makes the play. Even if Neal did catch the ball he is 4 yards short of the marker. IMO that was a bad read by Dungey. The man covering the slot blitzed on the play. The WR (ET) ran deep, being covered by the S with no help. That IMO was the better option by far. It could have been a big play.

UL drive

-The first play was kind of funny. The RB didn't move on the snap so it messed up the timing. Jackson had to wait for him to go by before running himself. The DE crashed down again and the OLB (Taylor) again played dive. Franklin actually played the dive correctly for once. Because of the broken play Cordy was able to fly up and Jackson decided to cut it back for only a 4 yard gain.

-The issue here though is that we had no one playing contain. I hate that the coaches say we lost contain when the scheme had no one assigned to contain. You are asking Jackson to run for 200 yards when you don't defend the outside. The gameplan should have been to make the runs go inside and take away the speed advantage. Based on the way we played, our #1 priority was the dive and not Jackson. That isn't a talent issue.

-A bad pass by Jackson misses at a minimum 30 yard gain, assuming Whitner makes the tackle. It was a hole in the zone, which isn't a talent tissue.

-3rd down they convert. We blitzed they executed for a 10 yard gain and 1st down.

-We played a Tampa 2 for once on 1st down. A bad pass from Jackson prevented a big play. The slot ran a seem route between Cordy and Franklin. Perfect pass is a 67 yard TD which would have been 100% scheme.

-Ratcliffe runs for 30 on the zone read. Bennett was playing the dive and got penetration forcing the RB to bounce it outside. For some reason Whitner took himself out of the play. He went the wrong way and got caught too far upfield. He should have been there to keep it at a 10 yard gain instead of 30.

-UL had twins to the left with no WR to the right. Hudson stayed on the right and we moved Taylor over the slot. This made Bennett and Franklin aligned like they we both ILB. Franklin did go the opposite way, but in this case that was the right thing to do. He was responsible for the run to the left since Taylor was so far away from the box. Hudson did a nice job on contain. The DE needed to get off the block if we had any chance of preventing a 10 yard gain.

-Jackson keeps on a zone read for only 3 yards. The DE crashed down. Franklin played the dive. Taylor reacted like he thought it was a pass, which ironically helped. He went outside with the TE and took up space which made Jackson think. He stayed 5 yards from the LOS and didn't try to make a play on the runner but being out there slowed the play down. Whitner was playing run all the way as he came from the other side of the field to make the tackle. We were in cover zero so a play action pass has us in trouble there. We guessed right on this play.

-Last play of the Q we were in zone. The WR catches it and then turns up field. He fumbled it and we recover. A lucky play as they were up 28-7 and at the 30.


Overall impressions:

-The O failed to execute. I don't think there were any issues with the system or play calling. I do think Dungey made some bad reads though.

-On D our scheme and gameplan were awful. I felt that was more of an issue than the talent. If we are coached the same vs USF we will see similar results. We didn't try to take away the runs to the outside and we dared them to beat us deep with one on one coverage. It made no sense. If you aren't going to have the Ss in coverage then at least make Ratcliffe beat you on the dive where you have the Ss waiting to make tackles. Why invite Jackson to keep the ball and run outside? And why trust our CBs on an island?

-Our players on D seem to have really low football IQs. That is more of an issue than physical size, speed, and talent. You would hope that from practice they wouldn't make the mistakes that they did. That partially falls on the coaches having the kids prepared and knowing what to do. However ultimately it falls on the kids to "get it."

 

[Briancuse]

So I decided to watch it again, not sure why.


1st play

-What was Cordy doing on that play? He got beat badly on a simple move. It was pathetic. He is supposed to be our best D player.

-Franklin was totally lost on the play. If it was a run the RB would have gone through the hole before Franklin even knew what was going on. He took himself out of the play, which he did a lot of last year. He shouldn't be that lost on the play.

Our 1st drive

-Dungey made a bad read and ended up taking a sack. The OL did him no favors but he had a guy open that he looked off.

-ET needs to make that catch on 3rd down.

UL 2nd drive

-We had 8 in the box yet no one on the outside. They ran a simple toss and had no problem getting 8 yards. The DE wasn't wide and Whitner was on the inside hip of the DE. I assume someone was out of position.

-Long pass play is mostly on the scheme. They had trips to one side yet we only had Dowels and Cordy to cover the 3 WRs, who all ran verticals. We decided to have Winfield stay on the other side. He covered the RB who ended up emptying the backfield. Whitner had to protect against the TE running a seam so that held him from getting to the play. Yes he should have made the tackle, but no way he prevents the completion for 30 yards.

-IMO Cordy was to blame as well. He played the outside slot like it was man coverage. He paid no attention to the inside slot. He should be keeping an eye on both. Again it isn't fair that he has to cover two WRs (scheme) but at least he should be able to make a tackle. He took himself out of the play. Funny thing is Dowels made the tackle and he was covering the outside WR. That fact that he was further away and made the tackle while Cordy was never in the screen, says a lot. So after 2 pass plays our best player made 2 mistakes IMO.

-TD run our LBs were totally lost. Thomas got suckered inside where Cordy and Franklin should have been. He has to play that outside in. Franklin did his typical Franklin vs the run play. Like I said above he looked lost last year as well. Is it him or is he being coached to do what he does? IMO it makes no sense. He is never blocked and they run right where he was every time. On the snap he runs to the weak side as the RB goes strong side and the QB follows him (pretty much like an Iso). There was no misdirection or threat of a run the other way. Plus Franklin ended up attacking the same gap as Bennett, which makes no sense.

SU 2nd drive

-3rd and 7 a QB draw????

UL 3rd "drive"

-Long TD run was a scheme issue for the 1st 10 yards then it was a Jackson/tackling issue. The DE was screwed on the play. He could have done a better job with contain but even if he did, he gets kicked out by the TE and Jackson simple runs inside of him with the same result. There was no way for the DE to make the play. That being said the coaches should have been teaching the DEs to contain all week long. Hopefully they get the point across better this week.

-Bennett was the OLB who was aligned more like an ILB. For some reason he incorrectly goes inside on the play. But even if he stays outside, he likely gets blocked by the 2nd TE or possibly the T. An average QB is getting 10 yards on this play assuming Whitner or Hudson can make a tackle. So the question becomes was Bennett out of position because he was taught that or was he doing what he was told? If he is doing what he was told then that is on the coaches. If he was playing incorrectly then it is on him that he had no chance to make a play.

SU 3rd drive

-1st play Dungey threw outside of Philips. By Philips' reaction he should have gone that way so it wasn't a poor throw but a bad read by Irv. Rest of the drive was great.

UL 4th drive

-1st play went for 9, a zone read that Jackson kept. Bennett did a nice job staying outside this time. Franklin avoided the block by going under it but Jackson was too fast and through the hole. If you want to nitpick he could have taken a diving attempt.

-Our 1st positive play on D a drop by the WR.

-3rd and 1 he hit the RB behind the LOS but couldn't take him down. Thank god for the holding call.

-3rd and long we sent a blitz. We dropped the DE into coverage. The Louisville player dropped the ball. I think the DE would have made the play but it would have been close. This drive seemed more luck than us making plays.

SU drive

-1st play was a deep shot. Like the call.

-2nd play was weird. It appeared to be a designed roll out yet all the WRs were on the opposite side of the field. It might have been a throw back screen to Philips, but Dungey never looked that way. It might have been a deep shot to Ismail, but on 2nd and 10 that seems odd. Or it was a busted play. UL got a lot of guys in the backfield right away so maybe Dungey just rolled on his own.

-3rd and 10 was a 3 yard pass to Estime. Dungey wasn't under pressure he needs to allow the play to develop before dumping it off.

UL drive

-1st play Hudson gets beat deep in the middle of the field. Most CBs against a tall WR aren't making a play without help in the middle from a S. On the play UL had twins to the right, no WR to the left. But again Winfield was on the left to play over the TE. Why? I am not sure what either of our Ss are doing on the play. Were we in cover zero or did someone miss the call? If it was cover zero then it is on the coaches. If one of the Ss missed the coverage, how does that happen especially on the first play?

-Cordy is the S on that side of the field. The way he follows the slot WR I assume he was in man coverage. So unless he got the coverage wrong, it wasn't his fault.

-Whitner was sucked in on the play fake, but he then acts like it was cover 2. If it was cover 1 then he shouldn't have been concerned with the run at all, and he should have opened up to the middle of the field and not toward the sideline when he realized it was a pass. Did he get the call wrong?

-Next play Jackson walks into the endzone. Again this is on the coaches. The DE was crashing down, there was no one on contain. Even if the DE missed the assignment, again Jackson woudl have cut under him for the same result.

-Thomas is aligned like an ILB and plays the dive. But even if the outside is his primary responsibility, he gets blocked by the TE. There is a chance of course that both Thomas and the DE blew the play, but if you are practicing all week against this O, how can two people get things wrong?

-For some reason with no WR on that side Hudson was aligned like a S. Why? He had no clue what to do on the play.

-Franklin went the wrong way again, not that it mattered since he wouldn't have been involved in the play. But it does make me think that our scheme is messed up. Someone has to be responsible for the dive. If your middle LB is going the other way, then the OLB has to take the dive. But then if the OLB is taking the dive, you have no one to take away the outside run. So either Franklin and Thomas have no clue what they are doing (partially a coaching issue) or they are doing what they are told and the scheme is awful.

-If we play this way vs USF it will be more of the same. Jackson was going untouched without even making a move. Sure he is a lot better than the USF QB but Jackson was jogging around with no defender in sight. He didn't have to do much work.

SU drive

-After a nice Dungey designed run he takes a sack. They had penetration but the RB picked it up. For some reason Dungey stepped up in the pocket when he didn't need to, he wasn't under pressure.

-3rd down we took a deep shot which I am not crazy about. We got a little lucky with a PI call.

-Next play empty backfield and Dungey wisely took off for an easy 1st down.

-On a 2nd and 10 we try a swing pass. It went incomplete and was nearly tipped by the DE. I thought it was poorly designed. On a pass like that you want a little bit of time to have the defenders clear out the area. Yet we threw it right away. So even if the pass was completed, the CB is still there unblocked to make a play behind the LOS. It was definitely a designed play as ET was blocking the LB right away. But like I said I rather have the WR take away the CB and have the OLB make a play.

-However that might have been a bad read by Dungey. On the back side Ismail was running a screen. I am guessing that was option #2 since Dungey never looked that way. Ismail was open and it certainly would have been the better decision. Was Dungey supposed to read the CB covering ET? Meaning man coverage throw the swing, if zone go backside?

-3rd down Dungey nearly throws an INT. Neal was split wide and did turn late but I still think the DB makes the play. Even if Neal did catch the ball he is 4 yards short of the marker. IMO that was a bad read by Dungey. The man covering the slot blitzed on the play. The WR (ET) ran deep, being covered by the S with no help. That IMO was the better option by far. It could have been a big play.

UL drive

-The first play was kind of funny. The RB didn't move on the snap so it messed up the timing. Jackson had to wait for him to go by before running himself. The DE crashed down again and the OLB (Taylor) again played dive. Franklin actually played the dive correctly for once. Because of the broken play Cordy was able to fly up and Jackson decided to cut it back for only a 4 yard gain.

-The issue here though is that we had no one playing contain. I hate that the coaches say we lost contain when the scheme had no one assigned to contain. You are asking Jackson to run for 200 yards when you don't defend the outside. The gameplan should have been to make the runs go inside and take away the speed advantage. Based on the way we played, our #1 priority was the dive and not Jackson. That isn't a talent issue.

-A bad pass by Jackson misses at a minimum 30 yard gain, assuming Whitner makes the tackle. It was a hole in the zone, which isn't a talent tissue.

-3rd down they convert. We blitzed they executed for a 10 yard gain and 1st down.

-We played a Tampa 2 for once on 1st down. A bad pass from Jackson prevented a big play. The slot ran a seem route between Cordy and Franklin. Perfect pass is a 67 yard TD which would have been 100% scheme.

-Ratcliffe runs for 30 on the zone read. Bennett was playing the dive and got penetration forcing the RB to bounce it outside. For some reason Whitner took himself out of the play. He went the wrong way and got caught too far upfield. He should have been there to keep it at a 10 yard gain instead of 30.

-UL had twins to the left with no WR to the right. Hudson stayed on the right and we moved Taylor over the slot. This made Bennett and Franklin aligned like they we both ILB. Franklin did go the opposite way, but in this case that was the right thing to do. He was responsible for the run to the left since Taylor was so far away from the box. Hudson did a nice job on contain. The DE needed to get off the block if we had any chance of preventing a 10 yard gain.

-Jackson keeps on a zone read for only 3 yards. The DE crashed down. Franklin played the dive. Taylor reacted like he thought it was a pass, which ironically helped. He went outside with the TE and took up space which made Jackson think. He stayed 5 yards from the LOS and didn't try to make a play on the runner but being out there slowed the play down. Whitner was playing run all the way as he came from the other side of the field to make the tackle. We were in cover zero so a play action pass has us in trouble there. We guessed right on this play.

-Last play of the Q we were in zone. The WR catches it and then turns up field. He fumbled it and we recover. A lucky play as they were up 28-7 and at the 30.


Overall impressions:

-The O failed to execute. I don't think there were any issues with the system or play calling. I do think Dungey made some bad reads though.

-On D our scheme and gameplan were awful. I felt that was more of an issue than the talent. If we are coached the same vs USF we will see similar results. We didn't try to take away the runs to the outside and we dared them to beat us deep with one on one coverage. It made no sense. If you aren't going to have the Ss in coverage then at least make Ratcliffe beat you on the dive where you have the Ss waiting to make tackles. Why invite Jackson to keep the ball and run outside? And why trust our CBs on an island?

-Our players on D seem to have really low football IQs. That is more of an issue than physical size, speed, and talent. You would hope that from practice they wouldn't make the mistakes that they did. That partially falls on the coaches having the kids prepared and knowing what to do. However ultimately it falls on the kids to "get it."

He might have thought he had help over the top, or he just got beat badly.

 

[jgeorge322]

This might be too simple but i thought good things happened when we blitz that game. The best way to contain jackson is to speed him up and make him uncomfortable. We let the guy pick us apart.

 

[oldpinepoint]

So I decided to watch it again, not sure why.


1st play

-What was Cordy doing on that play? He got beat badly on a simple move. It was pathetic. He is supposed to be our best D player.

-Franklin was totally lost on the play. If it was a run the RB would have gone through the hole before Franklin even knew what was going on. He took himself out of the play, which he did a lot of last year. He shouldn't be that lost on the play.

Our 1st drive

-Dungey made a bad read and ended up taking a sack. The OL did him no favors but he had a guy open that he looked off.

-ET needs to make that catch on 3rd down.

UL 2nd drive

-We had 8 in the box yet no one on the outside. They ran a simple toss and had no problem getting 8 yards. The DE wasn't wide and Whitner was on the inside hip of the DE. I assume someone was out of position.

-Long pass play is mostly on the scheme. They had trips to one side yet we only had Dowels and Cordy to cover the 3 WRs, who all ran verticals. We decided to have Winfield stay on the other side. He covered the RB who ended up emptying the backfield. Whitner had to protect against the TE running a seam so that held him from getting to the play. Yes he should have made the tackle, but no way he prevents the completion for 30 yards.

-IMO Cordy was to blame as well. He played the outside slot like it was man coverage. He paid no attention to the inside slot. He should be keeping an eye on both. Again it isn't fair that he has to cover two WRs (scheme) but at least he should be able to make a tackle. He took himself out of the play. Funny thing is Dowels made the tackle and he was covering the outside WR. That fact that he was further away and made the tackle while Cordy was never in the screen, says a lot. So after 2 pass plays our best player made 2 mistakes IMO.

-TD run our LBs were totally lost. Thomas got suckered inside where Cordy and Franklin should have been. He has to play that outside in. Franklin did his typical Franklin vs the run play. Like I said above he looked lost last year as well. Is it him or is he being coached to do what he does? IMO it makes no sense. He is never blocked and they run right where he was every time. On the snap he runs to the weak side as the RB goes strong side and the QB follows him (pretty much like an Iso). There was no misdirection or threat of a run the other way. Plus Franklin ended up attacking the same gap as Bennett, which makes no sense.

SU 2nd drive

-3rd and 7 a QB draw????

UL 3rd "drive"

-Long TD run was a scheme issue for the 1st 10 yards then it was a Jackson/tackling issue. The DE was screwed on the play. He could have done a better job with contain but even if he did, he gets kicked out by the TE and Jackson simple runs inside of him with the same result. There was no way for the DE to make the play. That being said the coaches should have been teaching the DEs to contain all week long. Hopefully they get the point across better this week.

-Bennett was the OLB who was aligned more like an ILB. For some reason he incorrectly goes inside on the play. But even if he stays outside, he likely gets blocked by the 2nd TE or possibly the T. An average QB is getting 10 yards on this play assuming Whitner or Hudson can make a tackle. So the question becomes was Bennett out of position because he was taught that or was he doing what he was told? If he is doing what he was told then that is on the coaches. If he was playing incorrectly then it is on him that he had no chance to make a play.

SU 3rd drive

-1st play Dungey threw outside of Philips. By Philips' reaction he should have gone that way so it wasn't a poor throw but a bad read by Irv. Rest of the drive was great.

UL 4th drive

-1st play went for 9, a zone read that Jackson kept. Bennett did a nice job staying outside this time. Franklin avoided the block by going under it but Jackson was too fast and through the hole. If you want to nitpick he could have taken a diving attempt.

-Our 1st positive play on D a drop by the WR.

-3rd and 1 he hit the RB behind the LOS but couldn't take him down. Thank god for the holding call.

-3rd and long we sent a blitz. We dropped the DE into coverage. The Louisville player dropped the ball. I think the DE would have made the play but it would have been close. This drive seemed more luck than us making plays.

SU drive

-1st play was a deep shot. Like the call.

-2nd play was weird. It appeared to be a designed roll out yet all the WRs were on the opposite side of the field. It might have been a throw back screen to Philips, but Dungey never looked that way. It might have been a deep shot to Ismail, but on 2nd and 10 that seems odd. Or it was a busted play. UL got a lot of guys in the backfield right away so maybe Dungey just rolled on his own.

-3rd and 10 was a 3 yard pass to Estime. Dungey wasn't under pressure he needs to allow the play to develop before dumping it off.

UL drive

-1st play Hudson gets beat deep in the middle of the field. Most CBs against a tall WR aren't making a play without help in the middle from a S. On the play UL had twins to the right, no WR to the left. But again Winfield was on the left to play over the TE. Why? I am not sure what either of our Ss are doing on the play. Were we in cover zero or did someone miss the call? If it was cover zero then it is on the coaches. If one of the Ss missed the coverage, how does that happen especially on the first play?

-Cordy is the S on that side of the field. The way he follows the slot WR I assume he was in man coverage. So unless he got the coverage wrong, it wasn't his fault.

-Whitner was sucked in on the play fake, but he then acts like it was cover 2. If it was cover 1 then he shouldn't have been concerned with the run at all, and he should have opened up to the middle of the field and not toward the sideline when he realized it was a pass. Did he get the call wrong?

-Next play Jackson walks into the endzone. Again this is on the coaches. The DE was crashing down, there was no one on contain. Even if the DE missed the assignment, again Jackson woudl have cut under him for the same result.

-Thomas is aligned like an ILB and plays the dive. But even if the outside is his primary responsibility, he gets blocked by the TE. There is a chance of course that both Thomas and the DE blew the play, but if you are practicing all week against this O, how can two people get things wrong?

-For some reason with no WR on that side Hudson was aligned like a S. Why? He had no clue what to do on the play.

-Franklin went the wrong way again, not that it mattered since he wouldn't have been involved in the play. But it does make me think that our scheme is messed up. Someone has to be responsible for the dive. If your middle LB is going the other way, then the OLB has to take the dive. But then if the OLB is taking the dive, you have no one to take away the outside run. So either Franklin and Thomas have no clue what they are doing (partially a coaching issue) or they are doing what they are told and the scheme is awful.

-If we play this way vs USF it will be more of the same. Jackson was going untouched without even making a move. Sure he is a lot better than the USF QB but Jackson was jogging around with no defender in sight. He didn't have to do much work.

SU drive

-After a nice Dungey designed run he takes a sack. They had penetration but the RB picked it up. For some reason Dungey stepped up in the pocket when he didn't need to, he wasn't under pressure.

-3rd down we took a deep shot which I am not crazy about. We got a little lucky with a PI call.

-Next play empty backfield and Dungey wisely took off for an easy 1st down.

-On a 2nd and 10 we try a swing pass. It went incomplete and was nearly tipped by the DE. I thought it was poorly designed. On a pass like that you want a little bit of time to have the defenders clear out the area. Yet we threw it right away. So even if the pass was completed, the CB is still there unblocked to make a play behind the LOS. It was definitely a designed play as ET was blocking the LB right away. But like I said I rather have the WR take away the CB and have the OLB make a play.

-However that might have been a bad read by Dungey. On the back side Ismail was running a screen. I am guessing that was option #2 since Dungey never looked that way. Ismail was open and it certainly would have been the better decision. Was Dungey supposed to read the CB covering ET? Meaning man coverage throw the swing, if zone go backside?

-3rd down Dungey nearly throws an INT. Neal was split wide and did turn late but I still think the DB makes the play. Even if Neal did catch the ball he is 4 yards short of the marker. IMO that was a bad read by Dungey. The man covering the slot blitzed on the play. The WR (ET) ran deep, being covered by the S with no help. That IMO was the better option by far. It could have been a big play.

UL drive

-The first play was kind of funny. The RB didn't move on the snap so it messed up the timing. Jackson had to wait for him to go by before running himself. The DE crashed down again and the OLB (Taylor) again played dive. Franklin actually played the dive correctly for once. Because of the broken play Cordy was able to fly up and Jackson decided to cut it back for only a 4 yard gain.

-The issue here though is that we had no one playing contain. I hate that the coaches say we lost contain when the scheme had no one assigned to contain. You are asking Jackson to run for 200 yards when you don't defend the outside. The gameplan should have been to make the runs go inside and take away the speed advantage. Based on the way we played, our #1 priority was the dive and not Jackson. That isn't a talent issue.

-A bad pass by Jackson misses at a minimum 30 yard gain, assuming Whitner makes the tackle. It was a hole in the zone, which isn't a talent tissue.

-3rd down they convert. We blitzed they executed for a 10 yard gain and 1st down.

-We played a Tampa 2 for once on 1st down. A bad pass from Jackson prevented a big play. The slot ran a seem route between Cordy and Franklin. Perfect pass is a 67 yard TD which would have been 100% scheme.

-Ratcliffe runs for 30 on the zone read. Bennett was playing the dive and got penetration forcing the RB to bounce it outside. For some reason Whitner took himself out of the play. He went the wrong way and got caught too far upfield. He should have been there to keep it at a 10 yard gain instead of 30.

-UL had twins to the left with no WR to the right. Hudson stayed on the right and we moved Taylor over the slot. This made Bennett and Franklin aligned like they we both ILB. Franklin did go the opposite way, but in this case that was the right thing to do. He was responsible for the run to the left since Taylor was so far away from the box. Hudson did a nice job on contain. The DE needed to get off the block if we had any chance of preventing a 10 yard gain.

-Jackson keeps on a zone read for only 3 yards. The DE crashed down. Franklin played the dive. Taylor reacted like he thought it was a pass, which ironically helped. He went outside with the TE and took up space which made Jackson think. He stayed 5 yards from the LOS and didn't try to make a play on the runner but being out there slowed the play down. Whitner was playing run all the way as he came from the other side of the field to make the tackle. We were in cover zero so a play action pass has us in trouble there. We guessed right on this play.

-Last play of the Q we were in zone. The WR catches it and then turns up field. He fumbled it and we recover. A lucky play as they were up 28-7 and at the 30.


Overall impressions:

-The O failed to execute. I don't think there were any issues with the system or play calling. I do think Dungey made some bad reads though.

-On D our scheme and gameplan were awful. I felt that was more of an issue than the talent. If we are coached the same vs USF we will see similar results. We didn't try to take away the runs to the outside and we dared them to beat us deep with one on one coverage. It made no sense. If you aren't going to have the Ss in coverage then at least make Ratcliffe beat you on the dive where you have the Ss waiting to make tackles. Why invite Jackson to keep the ball and run outside? And why trust our CBs on an island?

-Our players on D seem to have really low football IQs. That is more of an issue than physical size, speed, and talent. You would hope that from practice they wouldn't make the mistakes that they did. That partially falls on the coaches having the kids prepared and knowing what to do. However ultimately it falls on the kids to "get it."

Great write up

 

[Deano]

Wasn't it Franklin and a few other's that said the Tampa 2 was looking like an easy transition from last few years D. It sure doesn't sound or look like it so far.

 

[Ringostar57]

Colgate game hurt us. The difference in game speed as in what to expect blinded the D. We went from defending pedestrian to warp.

 

[upperdeck]

There is far less tampa 2 than people realize being run. if you watch the game you see actually get decent pass rush quite often. we blitzed pretty well and did things right except of for the tackling part. often we got clean runs but the DEs didnt maintain leverage. we got good rush several times with just 3-4 dline man which is good to see. Jackson's speed was the biggest issue. the safety play was awful much of the game and they were confused far too often.

the offense killed itself too much. the oline is not getting blown up nearly as much as it seems, they are clearly expecting certain things to happen and letting players go. whether the speed of UL caused it or play design who knows.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Since the 1st Q was awful I decide to watch more to cheer me up:


SU drive

-We ran the ball up the middle the first two plays for no gains. Seemed odd to force it again on 2nd down. We converted the 3rd with a nice screen to Stickland who was in the slot.

-Then we ran the ball up the middle for a minimal gain before Dungey had his What fumble moment. The blocking wasn't great but Dungey had plenty of time. Philips was open and yelling for the ball. Dungey was looking in his direction too. He then tried to duck under the defender before trying to throw it away. That killed the drive. Not a good game for Dungey at this point.

UL drive

-They came out with a play action pass deep that Jackson overthrew. They WR was open with Winfield in coverage. The route was to the middle of the field and we provided no S help. Good pass might have been a 78 yard TD.

-Another mistake by UL limits a long run. Jackson kept the ball on the read and went up the middle, running into his own lineman. Franklin again looked lost. On the snap he stutter stepped, not sure where to go, then decide to attack a gap to the right. If his assignment was that gap, why the right, left, right movement before going? If that wasn't his assignment, why in the heck was he going to the right when the RB was going left and Jackson ran up the middle, where Franklin just vacated? Also wouldn't it be more logical to have the OLB attack the gap on the right? Instead Bennett is watching the backfield and correctly moves with the RB.

-Thanks to slowing themselves down on the last play, UL has a 3rd and 4 in which the WR drops the ball. Wasn't an easy catch since it was in traffic and a bullet.

SU drive

-First play is a poor throw by Dungey. Philips probably should have caught it though. Next play Neal empties then drops the ball as he tried to turn up field.

-3rd down is the Estime pass. Great call.

-We try and hurry the next play off and end up hurting ourselves. It was a screen to ET but both slots blocked the same defender, leaving the CB to make the tackle. However...

-That might have been a throw away play to setup the next play. ET faked a screen while the 2 slots ran verts. Dungey hit Philips near the sideline for a nice gain. Estime looked to be the better option though and might have scored.

-Next play they had good coverage. Dungey avoided the sack and then threw it away. He could have hit Neal on the circle but no big deal.

-After a 2nd down run up the middle for no gain, Dungey runs out of the pocket for a nice gain. The WRs all looked to be covered.

-The 4th down play was a mess. Coming off a TO we didn't line up correctly. Even if the ball wasn't batted down, Philips woudl have been taken down right away on the screen. Then there is Estime. He ran a route. Was he supposed to? The defender closest to him would have made the tackle, which makes you wish Estime blocked him. However that might have been Dungey's read. Defender tries to stop the screen, pass it to Estime. Defender stays with Estime, throw the screen. So either Estime or Dungey blew that read.

UL drive

-First two plays they passed for nice gains. Nothing wrong with the scheme or talent on these.

-Jackson ran a zone read to the outside. We had no contain again. Thomas did a great job avoiding the blocker and forcing Jackson wide. Winfield did a poor job as he left Jackson go outside of him. It was only a 4 yard gain thanks to Thomas making a good play.

-They ran an old school option which we defended perfectly tackling them for a loss. They had a block below the waist foul as well.

-On a pass play, Jackson takes off right away but stumbles preventing any additional yards.

-On 3rd and 16 the TE caught it and might have advanced for the first down but lost the ball. Cordy ended up with it for an "interception"

SU drive

-Not a good start to the drive. A run up the middle for a minimal gain but a false start was called. Then a QB draw for a minimal gain. Next play was a screen. Either the G or C needs to get a hit on the DT. We let him straight in which put too much pressure on Dungey, whose throw was almost caught by a defender. 3rd down was a screen to Neal for no gain. Conservative calls after the penalty. However an offsides gave us another shot at 3rd down.

-Our second 3rd down attempt went incomplete. Ismail was interfered with but no call. That prevented him from making the catch. Wasn't a great throw by Dungey as it took forever to get out there, having no zip. If the DB was playing the ball he might have had a pick 6.

UL drive

-Wow did we get lucky the first play. Jackson faked to Ratcliffe who then ran a wheel. He doesn't drop the ball, he likely goes for an 80 yard TD there. They just had the right call vs our man coverage. If I am USF I am trying this play once a quarter.

-A dropped short pass on 2nd brought up a 3rd and 10. Jackson made a great throw. Cordy almost got a hand on the ball, maybe if he was taller he would have. Can't blame anyone here though.

-After another first via the pass we get a sack! Good job by Williams.

-A QB draw gets a few more yards than it should due to a missed tackle.

-Another 3rd down pass conversion. We brought a blitz. Hudson made the play. He could have reacted a bit better but it wouldn't have made much a difference. Bennett roughed the passer making things worse. Dumb play.

-Jackson gets 5 up the middle on a zone read. Franklin did a nice job getting off the block but whiffed on the tackle.

-After a pass to pick up the first down, Jackson makes his highlight TD run. Again we had no one assigned to contain. Hudson actually did a great job to come up to make a play before getting hurdled.

I thought we were better in the 2nd Q but the first 12 mins weren't that much different than the 1st Q. Thankfully UL made a ton of mistakes or it would have been worse than the 35-7 score at this point.

SU drive

-Being a little more aggressive we get 30 to Ismail then the TD to ET. Great job by Dungey making that play happen. I get that UL was up 35-7 but it was nice to see us attack down the field.

UL drive

-A big pass gain is avoided by another drop. Might have been an 85 yard TD. That was followed by a bad pass incompletion. Third down they had us beat. They tried to throw over the top of Franklin but the WR couldn't come down with it. Thankfully Jones came over to help, was a nice reaction. Since he was at CB I am guessing we were in cover 3.

SU drive

-We got unlucky with the participating without a helmet call on the PR killing field position.

-First play appeared to be a screen that was blown up. Dungey threw it away. Roughing the passer though got us back to midfield. Then a couple of short passes got us another first down.

-ET ran a post and Dungey threw it as if he was going deep. Next play was a bad call. With not a lot of time left you still need to attack. We did the run pass option which won't even get you a first down in most cases. This time it was a 2 yard gain on the pass. Wasted play.

-A run by Strickland up the middle goes for a nice gain and a first down. A screen to ET for a sort gain is followed by a short pass to ET that went incomplete but was nearly intercepted.

-QB draw with a nice run by Dungey but for god's sake don't hurdle. Lucky he didn't get hurt.

-I thought the 2nd TO was bad clock management by Babers. Let 20 seconds roll off first. Still leaves you with 28 secs to go 4 yards in 3 plays with 1 TO.

-Hate the fade but it was there and ET should have made the catch. The 2nd time it worked for the TD. Problem was we left 40 secs on the clock instead of 20.

UL drive

-We were putting everyone back in coverage. Nice play by Ellison. Really poor throw by Jackson.

SU drive

-I don't get why we didn't go for the TD. First off I feel like a 38 yard TD pass is more likely than a 55 yard FG. Also they had a guy back to return the kick if it was short. In addition a kick from that distance has to be low, which makes it more likely to be blocked. On top of this is the game strategy. Best case we hit the FG and then score a TD our first drive of the 2nd half. You still need to make a stop to win the game. If you go for 7, then you don't need to make a stop. If you fail to get a TD, then you need to make a stop. So what does kicking a FG really accomplish? What is the difference between 0 and 3 points there? While there is a big difference between 7 and 3.