We have been a very fortunate fanbase over most of our lifetimes

[cliftonparksufan]

with a few ebbs and flows. Whatever enjoyment we can draw from this year will be a bonus and hope next year is much better. I'll still go to every home game but accept reality for now. But it's still not as bad as rooting for the Giants this year. At least so far.

 

[two3zone]

with a few ebbs and flows. Whatever enjoyment we can draw from this year will be a bonus and hope next year is much better. I'll still go to every home game but accept reality for now. But it's still not as bad as rooting for the Giants this year. At least so far.

For me personally, if there was a time to be bad it would be now when the sport as a whole is horrible. Want the guys to get paid, want them to be able to transfer, want them to go to the league early, but it's destroyed my interest level in the game. I used to be glued to the TV watching games at all hours, now it's Syracuse and maybe if there is a game on before or after I'll watch it.

Explaining college sports history to people in 40 years is going to be wild.

 

[Dcuse]

For me personally, if there was a time to be bad it would be now when the sport as a whole is horrible. Want the guys to get paid, want them to be able to transfer, want them to go to the league early, but it's destroyed my interest level in the game. I used to be glued to the TV watching games at all hours, now it's Syracuse and maybe if there is a game on before or after I'll watch it.

Explaining college sports history to people in 40 years is going to be wild.

So you want all these things that have destroyed your interest level? That makes sense.

 

[two3zone]

So you want all these things that have destroyed your interest level? That makes sense.

I have have no children and yet care about the education and future of our country for children that aren't mine. I also think that the players generating billions of dollars should probably get a cut of it and not be tied down to a job. I don't know what that would be hard to understand. Maybe if you weren't selfish you'd understand.

 

[elimunelson]

It was…Camelot

 

[OrangeXtreme]

It was…Camelot

 

[dan7800]

I have have no children and yet care about the education and future of our country for children that aren't mine. I also think that the players generating billions of dollars should probably get a cut of it and not be tied down to a job. I don't know what that would be hard to understand. Maybe if you weren't selfish you'd understand.

This is really hard to realistically implement at the college level. There needs to be some kind of work around.

If you care about education, then unlimited transfers and quality education generally work against one another.

 

[two3zone]

This is really hard to realistically implement at the college level. There needs to be some kind of work around.

If you care about education, then unlimited transfers and quality education generally work against one another.

Counter argument would be, when was the last time this was about education?

 

[Sbucketball]

For me personally, if there was a time to be bad it would be now when the sport as a whole is horrible. Want the guys to get paid, want them to be able to transfer, want them to go to the league early, but it's destroyed my interest level in the game. I used to be glued to the TV watching games at all hours, now it's Syracuse and maybe if there is a game on before or after I'll watch it.

Explaining college sports history to people in 40 years is going to be wild.

For several reasons JB would not have done as well in this era with instant transfers and NIL. I consider us fortunate this didnt happen in his prime. Now really is the best time.

 

[elimunelson]

For several reasons JB would not have done as well in this era with instant transfers and NIL. I consider us fortunate this didnt happen in his prime. Now really is the best time.

No real coach would have. I consider knight to be a real teacher of basketball

Imagine him dealing with this one year stuff. This is a job for motivational speakers now. Frank TJ Mackie from Magnolia would be a great NIL coach

 

[Red2003]

As someone who was on campus as a Sophomore when we won a Natty and then for the years after enjoyed dominating Big East Tourneys at the Garden and then beating UConn in 6OT, I can fully say I am lucky.

You can look around all over the league and see teams drowning into the abyss right now though.

Imagine what the Virginia fanbase is thinking right now. Bennett just bounces like it was nothing, they're losing by 12 to an SMU team that just appeared in the ACC over night. SMU showed up in Virginia and from what I read Virginia didn't make a basket the last 10 mins of the game.

Or you have Villanova that won 2 Natties in the last 10 years and now is sitting at the bottom of the Big East.

It feels like this is just Cuse not being able to adapt but it's really not.

 

[ManleyRocks]

We live in Charlottesville. The fans are depressed by the current state of play. No one is blaming Coach Bennett. He had a system and the constant turnover plus inability to get the players he needs made clear to him that it was time to hang it up and turn it over to the next guy up. As stated above, a lot of proud programs are floundering. Reminds of the 1970s when baseball free agency emerged and the Yankees bought championships. Syracuse will need to figure out how to be the Oakland As or Pittsburgh Pirates.

 

[Red2003]

We live in Charlottesville. The fans are depressed by the current state of play. No one is blaming Coach Bennett. He had a system and the constant turnover plus inability to get the players he needs made clear to him that it was time to hang it up and turn it over to the next guy up. As stated above, a lot of proud programs are floundering. Reminds of the 1970s when baseball free agency emerged and the Yankees bought championships. Syracuse will need to figure out how to be the Oakland As or Pittsburgh Pirates.

Appreciate the insight. I think the difference would be there's a 50 other Oakland A's Teams.

 

[Orangezoo]

It’s all about $$$. The interesting thing is that the $$ factor is starting to favor the SEC and B12 heavily in hoops maybe even more than in football. Big East teams primarily can put all their eggs into the hoops basket. The B10 is not doing as well as they should with all that $$$ but still better than the ACC. The $$$ in the ACC when you factor all of it, coaches included, is falling way short and we are very much an exact fit.

 

[SimonSays]

personally. i’m 25 so most my life has been pain.

 

[SimonSays]

For me personally, if there was a time to be bad it would be now when the sport as a whole is horrible. Want the guys to get paid, want them to be able to transfer, want them to go to the league early, but it's destroyed my interest level in the game. I used to be glued to the TV watching games at all hours, now it's Syracuse and maybe if there is a game on before or after I'll watch it.

Explaining college sports history to people in 40 years is going to be wild.

maybe you just aren’t as passionate about certain things in your life anymore. i can’t imagine myself ever not planning my day around them (unfortunately) just to get disappointed.

 

[djcon57]

It’s all about $$$. The interesting thing is that the $$ factor is starting to favor the SEC and B12 heavily in hoops maybe even more than in football. Big East teams primarily can put all their eggs into the hoops basket. The B10 is not doing as well as they should with all that $$$ but still better than the ACC. The $$$ in the ACC when you factor all of it, coaches included, is falling way short and we are very much an exact fit.

It’s interesting but I was watching ACC Champ last night and watching SMUs RB who was a WR at Miami and wasn’t as featured. Thinking about Meeks for us from UGA who didn’t play and others.

You need lots of money for either sport but the portal has absolutely helped the non UGa, Bama types but getting some of the guys off their bench and onto other teams playing fields.

Basketball feels complete opposite. Take the best player from the little guy (Jyare Davis for example) and put him in the big guys bench. Unfortunately while we’re the big guy to Delaware and Hofstra, we’re the little guy to Duke. So just need to pick your spots when you make a move

 

[Cusefan0307]

Theres a lot of similarities between Syracuse and the Giants the past few years. Outdated strategies and bad personnel moves.

 

[two3zone]

maybe you just aren’t as passionate about certain things in your life anymore. i can’t imagine myself ever not planning my day around them (unfortunately) just to get disappointed.

I've probably missed less than 10 games in the past 15 years.

 

[dan7800]

Counter argument would be, when was the last time this was about education?

Totally agreed about eduction. The poster I was quoting mentioned education.

There is so much TALK about helping many of the disadvantaged/minority youth that frequently comprise most of the major D1 football and basketball teams. My 2 cents is that the best way to empower this demographic is through educating them. Heck, even if they're one of the small percentage that make it a few years in the NBA/NFL - a good quality education (where they're actually educated) coupled with the education coming from a nationally known school will take these folks a lot farther than even 2-3 years of paychecks.

Just my rant.

 

[dan7800]

personally. i’m 25 so most my life has been pain.

Assuming you're not married - then just wait for the real pain to begin

 

[two3zone]

Assuming you're not married - then just wait for the real pain to begin

I'd rather be stabbed.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I'd rather be stabbed.

6 of one a half dozen of the other

 

[OptimusOtto]

This is what worries me. My buddy and I have been bemoaning the state of the program the last 5-10 years like most. We were spoiled, grew up watching arguably the best decade stretch of the program (I know those from the late 80s would push back) and were lucky enough to be the only graduating class to get 2 Final Fours.

Each season there would be a new "rock bottom" and we always came back to, well at least we haven't had a Louisville, Georgetown, Pitt level bottoming out. I'm nervous this season is going to turn into one of those.

 

[Sherman20]

It’s all about $$$. The interesting thing is that the $$ factor is starting to favor the SEC and B12 heavily in hoops maybe even more than in football. Big East teams primarily can put all their eggs into the hoops basket. The B10 is not doing as well as they should with all that $$$ but still better than the ACC. The $$$ in the ACC when you factor all of it, coaches included, is falling way short and we are very much an exact fit.

The money factor is favoring the Big 12? Huh? Is that a typo?