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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1152561, member: 289"] Coach Shafer made a reference to Northern Illinois losing 21 in a row when he was there. I had to look that up. NIU is a pretty good MAC program. Shafe was there from 1996-99. They actually lost 23 in a row, (and 31 of 32): [url]http://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/NorthernIllinois.htm[/url] So our Coach is very familiar with losing. That's concerning. But he went on to a respected career as a an assistant coach and NIU has had 12 winners in 14 years since they bottomed out in the late 90's. That became with a 5-6 year the last year Shafe was there. [/QUOTE]