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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 1523671, member: 78"] Greg Robinson was a good hire from the perspective of NFL fans/boosters who watch a syracuse game on saturday. Gross was an idiot who went on the recommendation of Pete Carroll, who had no skin in the game and hooked up his buddy. whole thing suffered from navel gazing. Gross's idea of a plan was to ask someone at USC what to do. People of a certain age who went along with Robinson heard Super Bowl rings and west coast offense and nfl defensive experience. as long as Gross was there, they weren't going to hire anyone any good. 2005 was going to be a mess and I bet gross would've screwed up it up a year later. there is no plan with daryl gross on anything [/QUOTE]