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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 2489469, member: 874"] I don't think anyone is giving him a get out of jail free card. They are pointing out that the rebuild is a tough one and there has been progress even if the record didn't show it. If people can't see that, they don't actually understand football. Clearly these are not all of Dino's players yet. Nearly every true senior, redshirt junior, and redshirt senior on the roster preceded him. Are we supposed to expect Dino's freshman and sophomores to compete at a high level against peer team's juniors and seniors that were recruited by their coaches? I'm hoping for 6-6 this year, but if we don't get it, I won't blindly use the record to judge the team. I'll look at team execution, which players were on the field, etc. to draw my conclusions. My leash will get shorter in year 4, if we're still having this conversation. [/QUOTE]