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[QUOTE="Pyle, post: 2490117, member: 137"]
Until I see otherwise, I'll assume another Nov fall off. I think our tempo/system has alot to do with the team not finishing out strong against this schedule. So that being said, to reach a bowl we need 6 out of our first 8. I see 3 cooked in wins, that means we need to steal 3 from FSU/Clem/Pitt/NC/NCST. If we go bowling this year, it's because of one of two things...we have either reached the upper middle of the ACC or we've figured out how to win in Nov. Either one and Dino wins.

Buuuuut, another 4-8 season means we aren't progressing like we should. Even if you like the press conferences, the recruiting stuff, the 'system', if it's producing the same exact results after 3 years then something's broken in the machine. Mac was over .500 by year 3, Marrone was over .500 by year 2, fell off in year 3 but had at least given us a taste. The very simple fact is that Dino needs to, at a bare minimum, finish the regular season at .500 and lose a bowl game just to equal SS's 3 year mark of 14-23. Let that sink in. Another 4-8 season means Dino's record at SU is 12-24. Looking at the records of most SU coaches after 3 years...well that doesn't put him in very good company, right between Maloney and SS.
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