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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 3230471, member: 622"] Sure, if you want to remove emotion from the claim and present facts... (Sarcasm font off) You can add the following: HCDB has won with less talent SU has developed the new center, a kid who, as a freshman, took on the job because it was a needed position The skill players have improved immensely under HCDB Having forgotten just how far SU fell before HCDB, the rebuild is in full swing. No team chalks up SU as an automatic win. [/QUOTE]