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Message: [QUOTE="Cuseball, post: 5609878, member: 1603"] Agree. 12 -6 is no guarantee. There is a path to 12 wins and the best ACC win would be at Wake or home against Clemson. Those 12 wins could be Pitt twice, at BC, at Ga tech, Clemson, FSU, Va Tech, Miami, SMU, Cal, ND and at Wake. 6 losses would be to anyone good (UNC twice, at Duke, at Ville, at UVA, at NC State). 12 wins could be enough but you would need to win a couple out of the tougher game bucket. The non conference did not help us much at all. The Tenn game stands out but we will need at least another quad 1 win. Cuse [/QUOTE]