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Message: [QUOTE="KevMonstah, post: 5707035, member: 327"] i wish. and you could, if SU had a 12,000 seat hoops arena and a football team playing in a 15K football stadium, but they don't. (can't figure out how to paste the "It's a MOO point" gif, but that's about right) even Jim Jackson on the BE broadcast last night was saying, "BC, Pitt, SU, they don't have an identity in the ACC." the commentators said Big East football was a good league, but tv isn't paying for that. SU certainly hasn't held up their end of the bargain for the ACC bringing them in for hoops that's for sure, except for year one. They had to be ecstatic with that year: #1, 25-0 to start, high profile games vs Duke, 'this is what we wanted', and that was that. under .500 since, and not much of value. kev [/QUOTE]